Benefits from a small amount of canned?

  An all-canned died can cause major dental issues.

 
Not true.

How would it not cause dental issues if there was no bone or crunchy particles to clean away the plaque?

I dont think I would ever feed ALL canned, it just doesnt seem right for some reason (even if it is, i just couldnt do it).  Anyway I am def thinking of it being much more canned than dry as opposed to my usually dry with a bit of cann to coat it. 

As far as the dry pieces cleaning thier teeth, of all the five dogs Ive lived with Ive never heard one of them stand there and crunch the pieces.  We even got Kayla the small bites so it wouldnt be a problem.  I dont think that it has much cleaning effect because they dont chew it up... maybe one crunch in the whole meal I might hear if that.

Just got back from the store with 5 pounds of the Farmore Raw Chicken Diet; I only got the 5 pound box, so I can make sure he likes it first. I won't ever be able to go 100% raw, but I think I can swing half and half. The buffalo diet is $85 for 30 pounds (2 cups to a pound), while the chicken diet is $66 for 30 pounds. I figure if I feed 2 cups raw and 2.5 cups kibble when he's full grown, it'll only cost me about $40 more a month (only...lol). It will get a bit cheaper once he hits two years old and I change him from Wolfking to Barking at the Moon.

The box says that puppies up to 6 months of age eat 5-7% of their body weight a day, so that would mean 2 2/3 cups a day for Link (assuming 5%). I think what I'll do for now is feed 1 cup FarMore, and 2.25 cups of his Wolfcub. I came up with those numbers using the calories per cup given by Solid Gold. Please let me know if this sounds like a good plan to you, and if the measurements sound right.

Oh, he's 27-28 pounds, btw.

    papillon806, You're right about having to feed a lot more canned food than dry. Jessie gets about 2 and a third cups dry, but if I only fed her canned food she would need about three and a half cans a day, which would be about $7.00 a day.
      
schleide, The extra protein is just my opinion really, and if you're feeding a good kibble probably isn't necessary. Jessie is a senior dog and according to newer research, senior dogs maintain more lean muscle mass and stay more active if fed a kibble with a higher amount of meat based protein.:
 
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  Because of her allergy to chicken, I can't feed her the two senior formulas that I know of that have higher protein levels which are made by Eagle Pack and Purina. So what I do is add some canned food to her kibble and also feed her a small portion of cooked meat with her kibble. This is going OT a little, but I like to add some homecooked meat with a small amount of vegetables to her kibble. Why? Because we don't live on a diet of 100% processed food that comes from a bag or can, and I don't think our pets should either. I think they could be missing something such as phytonutrients from not eating a less processed food, but that's just my opinion.
 
 
 

Just for the record, kibble does NOT clean the teeth.  In fact the added carbs seem to contribute to tarter build up.

I Agree with Glenda, I was digging in the old nutrition archives and found a couple threads that talked about canned vs. kibble. They aren't too old-
[linkhttp://forum.dog.com/discus/messages/46/65520.html]http://forum.dog.com/discus/messages/46/65520.html[/link]
 
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Good quality canned food has a lot less grain in it than kibble does, and grains=carbs which cause plaque. That's what my dentist tells me, and that's why he tells me to brush my teeth or take a great big drink of water after I eat a sandwich. He says that bread has about as much sugar as a can of soda. People and dogs can't be that different.

Oh, I forgot to say, I feed Daisy a tablespoon of canned food with her dry dog food, and she drinks a lot less because the kibble is dehydrated. I have to put it in a kong for her, because she gets so excited she eats it sooo fast in the bowl that she gets stinky gas. With the Kong I make her work a little harder for it, so no stinky gas!

Maybe Glenda or papillon could help. I forgot to ask about feeding a cup raw frozen to large breed puppies...could this be dangerous for them, or is it alright? From what I've read BARF would be fine, but for now I think I'm more comfortable with premade and a RMB here and there.

I forgot to ask about feeding a cup raw frozen to large breed puppies...could this be dangerous for them, or is it alright?

It's fine. It's actually GOOD

Just for the record, I'm not saying kibble is better than canned or vise versa [] I definately think that every dog should have a little canned in their diet especially if they eat mostly dry, mainly because the added moisture will help digest the dehydrated kibble.  However, I still cannot justify feeding an all-canned diet mostly because of the cost.  *Technically* it is a rip-off because you are paying for about a pinch of actual dry matter/nutrients vs. a cup of water (or broth....my point is moisture). Might as well just make a home-cooked meal for them and get your money's worth []

-But to schlep, what do you mean a cup of raw frozen? I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly (lol), but if you mean raw frozen chicken or something, that's fine...

One cup of this daily (along with 2.25 cups of his Solid Gold Wolfcub):

http://www.farmoredogfood.com/chicken.htm

Thanks jennie.

I don't understand though, why is everyone saying, I give a little or a tablespoon or whatever it is, as if canned is a bad thing.  Canned does not cause tooth issues, has lots of protein, the preservatives in kibble aren't there, adds moisture, so why is everyone giving only small amounts or uncomfortable feeding it. 
 
I can see if cost is the problem because it is expensive. 

ORIGINAL: schlep

One cup of this daily (along with 2.25 cups of his Solid Gold Wolfcub):

[linkhttp://www.farmoredogfood.com/chicken.htm]http://www.farmoredogfood.com/chicken.htm[/link]

Thanks jennie.

Oh yeah, that's more than fine...it's a good idea!  []

Im not... I started giving Bailey mostly canned and only a little dry.  I dont wanna go all canned one, for the cost I suppose, and two, I just think she needs a little dry.  I know she sure as heck likes the canned better! lol.  I am glad to hear that canned is just as good if not better than the dry.. I rather give her that just to spoil her a bit more []
 
Innova canned btw smells really good lol (but im sure yall know that) she jumps all over it.

ORIGINAL: willowchow

I don't understand though, why is everyone saying, I give a little or a tablespoon or whatever it is, as if canned is a bad thing.  Canned does not cause tooth issues, has lots of protein, the preservatives in kibble aren't there, adds moisture, so why is everyone giving only small amounts or uncomfortable feeding it. 

I can see if cost is the problem because it is expensive. 

 
If I give Daisy more than a tablespoon of this particular food, (no matter how fast or slow she eats it) she will have stinky gas and the runs. A tablespoon or two won't do that with her. I want her to get the proper nutrition- as well as some extra moisture, but I dont' want her tummy to be upset. That's my reason.