Just talked to Purina

Glenda, don't sit out of this...you are one of the few that says basically feed what works...feed better if you can...do what's best for your dog.  []

ORIGINAL: glenmar

Interestingly enough the twice I've been scolded today in nutrition threads was because of what I perceived to be personal attacks on OTHERS, not on myself.

Guess I'll just sit down and shut up.

Sorry, I said that wrong. I meant you take things as being personal attacks, either on you or on other people, when they aren't.

There's no need for you to shut up, you're being dramatic. People should be able to express their thoughts without you getting personally offended when there is no reason.

Exactly Kelly.  And I should be able to express MY thots as well.  Whether you agree with them or not.

Lucky you that you can feed better...I gotta do what works best for my dog.
IMHO if what you do is based on experience then how is it wrong for that particular person.

 
Who said anything about being wrong?  Who said I feed better than you?  Who said feeding based on experience was wrong?  Not me. Re-read my posts if you're so inclined.
 
One question: Which is better, Ol' Roy or Canidae?  Without telling me a story, prove it! 
 
Ultimately, it has to come down to ingredients and cost.  I am NOT saying that this proves it will be best for your dog, but I am saying that one is a higher quality than the other.  Yes, this will influence my decision on what to feed my dog, but if my dog becomes ill, I will re-evaluate my decision (that is not the point though).
 
I am not debating your methods.  I am debating quality.
 
In retrospect, I came to a discussion forum to argue.  My bad.[8|]

ORIGINAL: glenmar

Exactly Kelly.  And I should be able to express MY thots as well.  Whether you agree with them or not.

No one is implying you couldn't. This all started when I remarked that you falsely accused someone of a personal attack. People are trying to police other people's posts and it's getting old. I don't care what you post and I rarely disagree with any of it. But I don't like when you try to keep other people from stating their thoughts by accusing them of attacks. Let's take this to PM if you want to continue.

One question: Which is better, Ol' Roy or Canidae?  Without telling me a story, prove it! 

This is like those Suave hair product commercials.  If you have two identical dogs with great health, soft coats, and loads of energy, would YOU know which one ate the Ol' Roy or Canidae?  Those commercials are dumb and so is this comparison. 

Before the internet and the ability to do your own research, how do you think people chose a dog food without discussing it?  Word-of-mouth is HUGE, so I'm sure it has helped a lot of companies, including Nestle-Purina.  That's called a story, by the way.

I do not.  You've made yourself perfectly clear in TWO threads now.

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Outside of grease,,,,  isn't this what dogs eat in the wild?   I do believe I keep hearing that we should feed them what they eat in the wild.
 
I have to say...at work today a little lady wanted to change her dog food and asked for help as to which brand. I went to help her since we were not busy at the time.   She fed Purina....I took her to Authority (which she said she fed BEFORE changing to Purina) and Nutro.   While there, two other ladies came to ask me about food ( good thing I don't work for PetSmart LOL) but they had the shiniest healthiest looking black and tan Pitty that I think I've ever seen....and they wanted to change their dog to a different food also....and when I asked what the dog ate, the answer was Alpo!!   It was gorgeous!
 
I agree that Sandra is doing what many others here have done...and that is call or write  their dog food company and ask questions and come here with the answers...to inform us of those answers just as everyone else had done.  I don't think it has anything to do with looking for an argument or a debate.  Sandra is smart enough to know what everyone here is going to say, but I don't blame her in the least for sticking up for her company. I sure stick up for mine.  And Glenda. its admirable of you to stick up for Sandras opinions.  Unfortunately around here, the conversations about food always turn ugly... and if people like Sandra didn't talk about Purina...there probably wouldn't be many converstions about food that are even interesting.

ORIGINAL: glenmar

I do not.  You've made yourself perfectly clear in TWO threads now.

This has nothing to do with the little spat, but I saw "TWO" and thought, "The Timberwolf Organic threads?"  LOL! 

I am NOT saying that this proves it will be best for your dog,
 
Then how is anything in your post...relevant to my dogs?
 
You cannot prove your choice of foods will be better for my dog. That's been made clear.
 
The only way I'd find out would be to feed it...and why should a person who does NOT have health issues with their dog, nor a history of them in past animals fed the same diet...experiment?
 
Having to try new things because of a problem is one thing. Messing with something that isn't broken is quite another.

Eh, I won't hang anyone for what they choose to feed their dogs. To each their own. One thing though, Sandra... don't you supplement your dogs feed with home cooked? If I'm not mistaken, you don't exclusively feed Purina. I think that can make a world of difference as well.
 
With that said, I used to feed Purina. In fact, it went from Purina to Pedigree to Nutro Natural to Canidae to Innova Evo to Nature's Variety Raw. I thought my dogs did well on Purina/Pedigree/Nutro Natural and what made me switch to Canidae was that it was 3 bucks more than NN and the ingredients were better. I figured it wouldn't hurt to try it and I'm glad I did. I noticed a huge difference in the dogs. Coats were shinier, breath wasn't as hideous and poop patrol was easier. I notice an even bigger difference with Innova Evo. Their poops are extremely small and there is no stink. Not to be nasty, but there have been times when I've woken up to what I thought was a rock in bed and it turned out to be a turd. It's not soft and there's no stink. That Evo really works wonders LOL!! []

Come on folks...stick to the topic and take the personal issue to PM and work it out

ORIGINAL: Roxie865

ORIGINAL: dogslife

btw I had a cat who ate purina food, most of her life and she lived to be 18.  So, I just had to add that.  She was never sick til the very end.  She was and indoor cat and I never brought her to the vet after her first shots - she would have a heart attack going to the vet.  Now I will get flamed for not taking her to the vet- just remember 18 years old!  Wish my dogs would live this long.

I'm glad your cat had a long life. 

BUT.  You should not be afraid to post something for fear of being flamed!  Is that what this board has become?  One where its members do not post something, because they think others will flame them?  That is ridiculous ... [:@]

Honestly, I think everyone's in a bad mood today. 

If your daring enough to rock the boat, then you should be prepared to be slammed.  I make daring statements occasionally and I am prepared for someone to disagree.  Afterall, that's whats a forums about ..."Getting on your soap box."   That and helping the occasional people who really come here for help.

I used to feed Purina

ORIGINAL: meilani

I think it would be a bit more informative if posters (not just meilani []) were more specific on the variety of food, not just the brand.  Purina has several varieties of kibble and their ingredients differ a fair amount.  Same with Science Diet, Solid Gold et cetera. 
 
They range from (close to) colored, flavored, fortified sawdust to halfway decent stuff.

ORIGINAL: Roxie865

One question: Which is better, Ol' Roy or Canidae?  Without telling me a story, prove it! 

This is like those Suave hair product commercials.  If you have two identical dogs with great health, soft coats, and loads of energy, would YOU know which one ate the Ol' Roy or Canidae?  Those commercials are dumb and so is this comparison. 

Before the internet and the ability to do your own research, how do you think people chose a dog food without discussing it?  Word-of-mouth is HUGE, so I'm sure it has helped a lot of companies, including Nestle-Purina.  That's called a story, by the way.

Actually, according to my hair dresser,  Suave is the best shampoo you can buy at a grocery store.  That and Tressemme (or however that's spelled) and Aussie.

But if you really wanted to buy the best shampoo, you'll have to buy it at a salon.

By the way, this reminds me of a point I tried to make earlier.  Roxie, you had said
some people have no clue (about dog food) some simply don't have the money, and some don't give a hoot.  We should Sandra and others credit for giving a hoot.

I want to add to this, if I may.  I try really hard not to flame people who enter this forum telling us they feed Ol'Roy or Kibbles and Bits or Moist and Meaty.  Technically these people fit into the "have no clue" category.  But, come on, at sometime in the back of their minds they must have thought that all those color, the rotten smell, and, in the case of Ol' Roy, the cheapest, most generic dog food was not good for their dog.  I always use the analogy "You buy the cheapest dog food on the shelf to feed to your dog for every meal, but I bet you don't buy the generic cheap coffee or shampoo, do you?" 

Now, Purina Dog Chow, Beneful, and Pedigree feeders fit into the "have no clue" category (not that Sandra and others who've expiramented and found that Purina One works have no clue)  but to me it's a little more understandable how people could be tricked into feeding these foods.  Good advertising, reputable name, etc.