Raw whole fish?

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    Raw whole fish?

    As part of our new and exciting feeding regime now complete with muscle meat, raw meaty bones, mashed veg, mashed fruit, organ meat and a teensy bit of dairy, I feel that fish should be in there maybe one feed a week, too. My mother has tremendous resistance to the idea of feeding raw fish with bones to the dogs because it was drilled into her as a kid that fish bones would choke you, as it happened to her mother. Is there anyone who has fed raw fish with bones to their dog for a while? Is it considered safe? 
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    Yup! My dogs really don't like it, and give me all sorts of evil looks. I have to make sure that I get smallish, soft fish. Bigger fish (like where one fish would make a meal) seem pricklier, and they won't eat them (these are NOT picky dogs). They do fine with littler fish. I wish I could find raw sardines and anchovies, here.

    Emma *does* like when I catch minnows and put them in the baby pool for her. It's fast food.
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    I know animals eat raw fish, but you couldn't pay me to give it to my dogs.  I fish a lot and i do all the cleaning and I have had some serious "jabs"  and cuts from the fish bones and had a couple of places get infected.  There is no way I would risk it with my dogs.  They could possibily eat it for years with no problem, but fish bones are small and very sharp when broken.
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    I would stick to canned sardines,mackarel,salmon.They still have all the essential fatty acids etc that fresh raw fish has,and truthfully i dont think there's an abudance of nutrients in raw fish that cant be found in the tinned varieties.
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    I've been DYING to give Ella some fresh, raw fish. But we live in Illinois, not much of what is safe for her to eat fish-wise, is fresh here. I buy canned salmon and mackeral. I want to get her oysters but I can never find any plain packaged oysters. They're ALWAYS treated in some way, like smoked or in with garlic or junk. UGH.
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    Maybe you could buy deboned raw fish at the grocery store, but that's expensive. I've also cleaned fish and agree with Sandra about the bones. Here's a link on what types of fish are safe to eat from the perspective of having the fewest pollutants;   [linkhttp://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=bestandworst]http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=bestandworst[/link].
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    If you want to give raw fish, fillet it first.  I fillet it and make sure there are no bones, but I also cook the fillets in microwave.  I should have said that with my answer yesterday, but I was thinking of just tossing a whole fish to a dog and visions of those sharp bones made me shudder.  Mine do get a lot of canned salmon and mackeral, but I really like to give them fresh caught, NO BONES, fish.
     
    EDITED  A few years ago I had cooked up about 3 pounds of flounder fillets  I had caught that day for my dogs. Hubby got in off the road unexpected about 9:30 and there was nothing for him to eat, so he ate a grilled cheese sandwich and can of soup and for years has told everyone i feed him soup and sandwiches and feed the dogs $7 a pound fish.  At the time WHOLE flounder (gutted and gilled, but still with head and bones) was selling at our grocery store for $6.99 a pound and by the time you cut the fillets off, you would probably be paying about $8 a pound for what you eat. 
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    ORIGINAL: sandra_slayton

    I know animals eat raw fish, but you couldn't pay me to give it to my dogs.  I fish a lot and i do all the cleaning and I have had some serious "jabs"  and cuts from the fish bones and had a couple of places get infected.  There is no way I would risk it with my dogs.  They could possibily eat it for years with no problem, but fish bones are small and very sharp when broken.


    I agree with the filleting not only for the bones, but because fresh caught fish can sometimes have very odd things in their stomachs. Including hooks.
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    Actually, it can be harmful to give raw salmon to dogs.  Be sure you are educated before giving your dog anything, whether it's raw or not!
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    Small fish? Like, little bitty ones? Smaller than my hand, by a long shot?

    I didn't think they were too dangerous....
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    I agree with the filleting not only for the bones, but because fresh caught fish can sometimes have very odd things in their stomachs. Including hooks.

     
    You know I didn't think about that part as I have never given  anything other than fresh caught fillets or canned.  But MANY times I have found hooks  and even lures in the stomaches or throat of fish, especially toothy fish like flounder.  You can find odd things in theur tummies.  A friend of my son's caught a redfish that had a SHOTGUN SHELL in it's stomach.  I guess it was floating around, the sun made the gold  part glint (the shell was red with gold top) and the redfish just gulped it.  I caught one once that had a mess of sunflower seeds in his tummy.  I suspect some fisherman had spilled them.  Twice there have been reports in our paper of red fish being caught that had rats in the tummies.
     
    Also I would not only be worried about the bones, but also the spines on the dorsal fins especially.  they are like darning needles and can puncture in a heartbeat.
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    Thanks guys. I did do some research, but you know, with raw food especially there's a whole lot of wildly conflicting stances. Fresh fish can be quite cheap, here. You can get mullet or leatherjacket for around 5-7 dollars a kilo. Salmon is not very cheap, here! My dogs will not be getting salmon, and especially not fresh salmon, and most especially not fresh salmon from the US west coast. [:'(] We have given them cheap frozen fish from the freezer section before, but I don't really like the huge degree of processing. I think I can convince my mother that canned fish is okay, though. She's happy enough to give that to the cats. I'll avoid big fish bones.