Does my westie puppy have food allergies?

    • Bronze

    Does my westie puppy have food allergies?

    When we first received our 3 month old westie puppy he was sick from day one. The breeder was feeding him Eukunba puppy. After many trips to the vet and a overnight hospital stay for him he was diagnosed with Coccidia. He was given AB and put on Royal Canin gastro food for 2 weeks. He did fine in those two weeks. We then weaned him off the gastro food and started him on a holistic organic dog food, ( I forget the name). He became sick again, loss of appetite, grumbling stomach, bloody mucosal diarrhea, and vomiting. Back to the vet we go.  More AB and back on the gastro food.

     I finally bought him Natural balance limited ingrediants, the potatoe and duck.  He has been on it for 2 weeks and he threw up once and did not eat for one day but that was the extent of it.

    On the weekend we took him out to the cabin. I dont know if he was to excited to eat but he did not eat his food all weekend, he was only intrested in the cat food. He did manage to eat about one cup full.

    On Monday he was still not eating his dog food and yesterday(Tuesday) throwing up, diarrhea and grumbling stomach. Today more mucosal bloody diarrhea. Is food allergies this severe that causes him to have bloody mucosal diarrhea?

     Now my question is could one cup of non wheat free cat food hurt is stomach this bad or is it just a concidence and he is sick with an underlying issue.

    Did you guys have similar symptoms with your dogs when he had a food allergy? He was also itiching a lot and that has settled quite a bit since we put him on Natural Balance.

    I also heard dogs dont get food allergies untill they are at least one year old, he is 5 months. And if he does have a food allergy is he getting enough nutrition on the Natural Balance?

    Please help, really worried about him. I dont know what to do anymore, the vet is not offering any solutions. Every time he is sick they just put him back on AB. I want to find out the answer.

    Thanks in adavance for answering. Smile

    • Bronze

    It used to be that vets didn't consider gastrointestinal symptoms indicative of a true allergy.  Rather, gastro symptoms were called food sensitivities or intolerances.  I don't know whether the thinking on that has changed or not.  What matters is that they're treated exactly the same way -- avoiding the offending food(s).

    Now . . . what you're describing sounds extreme to me.  I think in your shoes, with such a young puppy, I'd want to find another vet who'd be more willing to do some detective work to rule out possible causes other than food. 

    At the very least I would be extremely vigilant over the next couple of weeks in making sure that he gets nothing but the NB and see how he does.  NB is a good food, no worries about him not getting adequate nutrition if he's able to eat it w/o developing diarrhea.  Another option would be to home cook for him.  We can provide more info on some sources who will work with you to prepare a properly balanced diet for his individual needs if you're interested in that.

    • Bronze

    Thanks for your answer, Im looking into finding a second opinion from a different vet. I hope this gets solved.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Glad you are getting a 2nd opinion.

    It's possible she is grain intolerant.  My sister has a westie with a very sensitive tummy and she has been feeding California Natural with success.  She is keeping a close eye on the ingredients since the P&G buyout though.

    If you are interested in cooking for her, there are several good books out there.

    I also reeeeeallly like The Honest Kitchen foods.  

    Let us know what the vet says!

    • Gold Top Dog
    Yep, I'd switch vets. IIRC, coccidia can be hard to shake, so he might not be 100% 'clean'.

    Also, cat food is generally pretty 'rich' and could probably do that to his tummy.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Westies, as a breed, tend to have many allergy issues AND skin issues as well as digestive issues.  Resist the urge to switch foods constantly -- you can actually CAUSE allergies/intolerances that way. 

    I'd second finding a different vet -- this is a pup and they can be prone to parasites (their body just isn't mature enough TO ward anything off yet and when they are growing fast the immune system isn't functioning as it should either).  So I would hope a vet was keeping ON the fecal (not just a float, but a smear and really LOOK at it)

     

    • Silver
    Yes the cat food can do that, the symptoms that you are describing are usually from eating the wrong food, something rotten or to much food. It is hard to get food advice for a vet they have little training in nutrition and the training they do get comes from the dog food companies. The NB sounds like it is working for you I would stay with the limited diet. You can switch around on the meat source every 4 to 6 months. it is supposed to keep you dog from getting food allergies. It sounds like you have one with a sensitive tummy so if you decide to alternate on the meats do it slowly.
    • Bronze

    Thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. The vet said for me to take another stool sample and he wil send it to another lab where they can do more exdtensive testing, he mentioned testing for Giardia. I will keep you updated. 

    • Bronze

    Good!  Giardia is a definite possibility.

    • Bronze

    Now Im not convinced he has food allergies/intolerance. Well I was not looking he ate a huge plate of lasagna. I thought oh oh here we go. All the noodles and spices will for sure upset and stomach. I waited for the storm to hit and then nothing, not even a rumbly stomach.  This got me thinking that it might not be a food intolerence.  Hmmm....

    • Bronze

    I agree with some of the other posts. I would definitely find another vet. Ask people you know for a referral. I've always had wonderful vets but since moving to Florida I've tried 8. They seem to be after the money and only want to run unnecessary tests and still not always giving me satisfactory answers.

    Dogs have quite sensitive stomachs so it's not helpful to keep switching their food. When you do change foods you're supposed to do it over the course of a couple of weeks by mixing a little new into the old. I've heard great stories from people who started preparing their own foods and it really helped their dogs.

    Another thing to consider is bad breeding. Do you know if the breeder was reputable? A friend of mine got a puppy from a breeder many years ago and he was sick from day one. She loved him so she kept him but she had to be very vigilant with his diet or he would keep getting sick.

    Good luck and don't give up!