To anyone who thinks SchH is only for people with a tough guy complex....

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    To anyone who thinks SchH is only for people with a tough guy complex....

     ...how about a 7 year old girl scoring a 91 and 92 in obedience and protection at a national trial?  Her dog is older than her and she has to raise her arms to avoid touching on her about turns.  I was wondering how the dumbbell toss was going to work!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTZmIFdgU2M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn3VghnNEpc

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    That was sooo cool!

    She is quite a focused and determined young lady!

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    WOW, she did great! (Well, to me it looks great, but I dont know much about SchH)

    Liesje
    Her dog is older than her and she has to raise her arms to avoid touching on her about turns. 

    Do you lose points for touching the dog during the trial?

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    You may not touch the dog or speak to the dog other than the accepted commands, except between exercises you may praise and touch the dog as long as it's under control.  The dog can be touching you for heeling, but there's a difference between the dog touching you and you touching the dog, if that makes sense.

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     That is SO cute. I always love seeing kids in the sport rings. They're cute in  the conformation ring, too, but there's something about a dog that REALLY loves it's kid:)

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     And.....it isn't only for tough dogs either Big Smile

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxDYUkbIv7M

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    Ivan is known for doing "experiments" with his obedience (like taking a show line dog to the WUSV).  Unfortunately though the Beagle (or any Beagle) would not be able to pass a SchH1 without skipping certain exercises b/c they are too small.  Claudia Romard's JRT could do a SchH3 protection routine but was never titled.

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     Wow that is incredible!  I admit to knowing NOTHING about SchH though...  I am assuming it's 91/100?  I can't even see where they lost points.....  Looked like there was a dodgy heeling moment around the second dumbell.... and when she sent him away I am guessing he's not supposed to turn before lying down?  These are just wild guesses in the dark!  Also, he doesn't sit as close to her in front as I would expect.... I sort of thought they had to be toe to toe and right up to you, but I suppose if he'd done that he'd have been right in her face... he's almost as big as she is!!

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    Yes, it's 91/100 which is a great score.  On the send out, the dog sprints away from the handler and then turns to face the handler when commanded to down.  If I had to guess where points were lost, I'd say some of the finishes were a little too forward, it looks like the dog sniffed a person in the group, and the dog took a few steps on the stand out of motion.  I've never seen retrieves done that way before (but knew she was going to have to do something a little different since I can barely throw a SchH1 dumbbell straight and the SchH3 one is 5lbs).  I'm not sure if she is slightly docked for having to give an extra "sitz" command when she moves away from the dog to toss the dumbbell.  Regardless, the returns could have been faster and the holds a little steadier.  It also depends on the overall picture and how the other competitors were scored in comparison.

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    I have not one iota of knowledge about SchH, but man  . . . that little girl could yell.  LOL

     

    Deb W.

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    Liesje

    Ivan is known for doing "experiments" with his obedience (like taking a show line dog to the WUSV).  Unfortunately though the Beagle (or any Beagle) would not be able to pass a SchH1 without skipping certain exercises b/c they are too small.  Claudia Romard's JRT could do a SchH3 protection routine but was never titled.

     

    I have a friend who plays around with it with a Sheltie just for fun.

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     Amazing!

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    Wow!  Ok, tell me how in the world do you get your dog to look at you like that?

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     Easy. The way I've done it is to teach a solid "watch me" before I started heel work. If the default behavior is "watch", they learn NOT to look away while they're working. Bean and Jewel both do lovely heads up heeling. Emma could not hold the position, and would back off to look at  me, so I taught her to heel with her head forward.

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    shamrockmommy

    Wow!  Ok, tell me how in the world do you get your dog to look at you like that?

     

    Various methods. 

    One method is to instill it as a puppy using lots of food.  Basically you walk along, dispensing kibble or treats from your left hand with it held up near your waist.  If you control the position of the dog's head, you control the butt too, so you can adjust where your hand is held to keep your dog straight (not wrapping too much or forging).  I believe Jason did lots of this with Ike as a puppy and look at him heeling now.  I like his training a lot because he is not luring with his reward and yet the dog is heeling wonderfully.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hY4J3ISMfo

     

    Another method is to use a motivational toy as a lure and always reward the dog from your left shoulder or armpit.  They even make training vests where you have a pull string in your right cuff that releases a toy from your left shoulder.  My SchH trainer's dog Nero is trained this way:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADViM0B2e-E


    Yet another method is to build a really strong bond with the dog, so he is look at you because of who you are and not a lure, and then wait until the dog is mature and reinforce a correct heel using light leash corrections (some dogs even load into drive with nagging/tapping on their collar).