Limited/unlimited registration and showing

Hmm, the whole idea behind conformation showing is to evaluate breeding stock, so, techinicaly I don't think you can do it.  Maybe pop AKC an email?

A dog with an AKC limited Registration shall be ineligible to be entered in a breed competition in a licensed or member dog show.

correct. That'd be a "No".

 thats what i figured, but wasnt sure...a breeder i was looking at offered to sell puppies for less with limited reg, and change registration (for a fee) later on if decided too...which would have been perfect, as i just have intentions to show, and none of breeding - unless ofcourse the dog turned out to be a spectacular dog or something..

oh well just a thought!  thanks

You know, the kicker is, you can get full UKC registration on a dog with a LImited AKC reg. 

 yes ive heard that...very scary for a breeder i can imagine...i guess thats why alot of breeders will have contracts specifiying the dog cannot be registered with any other registry...although im sure if people want to find away to do it they will anyways...

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 yes ive heard that...very scary for a breeder i can imagine...i guess thats why alot of breeders will have contracts specifiying the dog cannot be registered with any other registry...although im sure if people want to find away to do it they will anyways...

 I don't know that it is scary. If breeders are trusting limited to ensure their puppies go to good homes with honest people, that is a bit worrisome.

 I personally don't care for limited registration in many cases. A friend of mine got really screwed with a co-onership deal which basically turned out that the co-owner decided that the whole litter would be on limuted, inlcuding the two puppies my friend kept. My friend used the stud dog the co-owner wanted, paid for everything, whelped and sold the puppies - the co-owner is just being difficult.  There is nothing my friend can do to get the limited changed and one of her puppy buyers is also stuck with limited on a dog she bought intending to show in conformation.

she should let AKC know. NO ONE can be forced into Limited...and this section of the AKC rules will stand up for her,

I agree Agile.  I have NO plans to breed dogs or anything like that, but when I pay for something I want to own it in full.  If the breeder doesn't trust me to do what our contract requires then she shouldn't give me a dog, period.  I have full AKC and UKC registration on both of my GSDs.

I also very much disagree with pricing structure that is based on registration.  Well, I disagree with any variation in price unless the puppy has a known fault.  Sell the dogs on limited, or sell them on full.  To me, charging more for full just looks like a way to make more money off of dogs.  Just because someone is willing to pay more does not ensure they are more responsible and a better home.

I don't do co owns on my own dogs anymore...but I have earned that. I don't think a first timer should expect a full own on any high quality dog without A LOT of time invested. Sorry but that is how I feel. I am not giving my best, intact to anyone trust or no trust...if I have not known them a VERY long time or they have not shown with previous dogs that they are legit in what they plan to do.

There are people in my breed who pretty much place Full  with no strings and their lines are often found behind BYB's at some point. If you breed in any kind of numbers...it will come back to bite you almost always, IMO.

Gina I don't have a problem with breeders selling limited, only when the price of the dog is determined based on registration (as opposed to the actual quality of the dog).  For instance, I know some GSD breeders that breed very successful working line dogs and sell *all* puppies on limited, which is lifted once the dog has been titled and OFA'd/a-stamp for hips and elbows.  But the dogs are all the same price and there is no reimbursement for doing the titling and h/e certs, nor does the owner have to pay more for full registration.  I just don't like when the dog's papers are the deciding factor for price.

I personally don't buy dogs with limited registration because I show my dogs and compete in WDA (which requires a 4-gen pedigree and full registration to have the pedigree certified and to compete).  For me, limited registration defeats the purpose of owning the dog.  But I have no problem with breeders using it as long as they are consistent and not using registration status to make money.

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Bottom line is AKC will always prefer to fully register the dog vs Limited...and if your friend has no binding legal document stating she CANNOT do Full reg...she and any other puppy owner can and probably would get Full from AKC and the person who was trying to block would be no little hot water.

 Wish I would have known that when she registered the puppies! Do you think she could still get it lifted? She is the co-breeder of the litter, along with the person who is being difficult.

ah I see, I was confused because the phrasing sounded like you were referring to owning the dog, which has nothing to do with registration type..own vs co own...was what I was thinking. sorry for misunderstanding

I sell all pets on limited...and they are meant to be pets, or if the owner likes, performance, but not shown in conformation. Different breed tho! They do cost less as well (pets, regardless of reg. status, a retired show prospect would have a full reg but be s/n prior to placement because they're old enough, 4 ex.)...much as I would love to roll in dough...it ain't happening that I make money because of a price difference in pet vs show LOL. For me it's just about getting people wanting pet's noses OUT of the local paper and taking some of them away from BYB's and pet shops. My prices are all about that...good people out there cannot afford the cost of a show dog...so I don't charge them that. My pet hounds are not cheap, but neither are they out of reach for the average person living in this economy, either. I have had success with this...but I know it's not everyone's cuppa.

Agile, I think it'd be worth pursuing quietly. I mean she was basically FORCED into this. She CAN lift the Limited right now as I read it...if there is no LEGALLY BINDING contract stating she cannot between her and Difficult.