What do you all think about..

    • Gold Top Dog

    What do you all think about..

    Artemis Power Formula?  I can get a 40lb bag for 56 bucks with free shipping on K9cuisine. This will be for Lillie and maybe Joker. I am gonna try Evo with Lillie but if I can get this food to work then that will be great since there is more food offered. Or should I just forget this food and go with Evo?
     
    Power Formula - Power Formula is designed for the working dog, show dog, agility dog, dogs that have a difficult time maintaining weight, due to activity levels. This product is formulated to meet the A.A.F.C.O. dog food nutrient profile for all stages of a dog's life.
     
    Ingredients Guaranteed Analysis
    Chicken Meal
    White Rice
    Chicken Fat (Preserved Naturally with
    Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin C
    and Rosemary Extract)
    Lamb Meal
    Dried Beet Pulp(Sugar Removed)
    Ground Brown Rice
    Fish Meal
    Flaxseed
    Brewers Dried Yeast
    Dried Egg
    Salt
    Glucosamine Hydrochloride/Chondroitin Sulfate
    Potassium Chloride
    Lecithin
    Garlic
    DL-Methionine
    Vitamin A Acetate
    D-activated Animal Sterol(Source of Vitamin D-3)
    Vitamin E, Riboflavin Supplement
    Vitamin B-12
    Choline Chloride
    Pyridoxine Hydrochloride
    Thiamine Mononitrate
    Folic Acid
    Ascorbic Acid
    Biotin
    Inositol
    Dehydrated Kelp
    Chelates of Zinc
    Iron
    Manganese
    Copper
    Cobalt
    Potassium Iodate
    Sodium Selenite
    Sage Extract
    Aspergillus Oryzae Fermantation Solubles(Digestive Enzyme)
    Enterococcus Faecium and Lactobacillus Acidophilus(Probiotics)
    Crude Protein, min. 30%
    Crude Fat, min.  20%
    Crude Fiber, max. 4%
    Moisture, max.  10%
    Omega-6 Fatty Acids, min.* 3.05%
    Omega-3 Fatty Acids, min.* 0.5%
    Glucosamine, min. 400ppm
    Calories 3,885 kcal/kg.
    426 kcal/cup (8oz. Cup)

     

    • Gold Top Dog

     Precise Endurance has basically the same ingredients, and it's cheaper. Actually, I like the ingredients of it better. http://www.precisepet.com/defaultingrediants-endurance.htm

     

    They have a dealer locator thingamy. 

    http://www.precisepet.com/defaultsearchusa.aspx

     

    Personally, I've had more luck keeping weight on with carbs. Evo is not super low carb compared to what I feed, though, so I dunno.... 

     

     

    • Gold Top Dog

     How much is it? I cant find a price.

    The dealer it list is actually only 20 minutes away. Downside is that it's at the petstore that sells puppies.

    Should I just go ahead and try Evo? 

    Evo large bites is 28lbs for 65 bucks but still with free shipping.

     

    Ingredients Guaranteed Analysis
    Turkey   
    Chicken   
    Turkey Meal   
    Chicken Meal   
    Potatoes   
    Herring Meal   
    Chicken Fat   
    Natural Flavors   
    Egg   
    Apples   
    Tomatoes   
    Potassium Chloride   
    Carrots   
    Vitamins
    Garlic   
    Cottage Cheese   
    Minerals
    Alfalfa Sprouts   
    Ascorbic Acid   
    Dried Chicory Root   
    Direct-Fed Microbials          
    Vitamin E Supplement
    Lecithin   
    Rosemary Extract
    Moisture 7.50  % 
    Protein 43.16  % 
    Fat 22.22  % 
    Linoleic Acid 4.20  % 
    Omega 3 0.52  % 
    Docosahexaenoic Acid 0.11  0 
    Carbohydrates 14.46  % 
    Fiber 1.52  % 
    Ash 11.14  % 
    Calcium 3.03  % 
    Phosphorous 1.76  % 
    Manganese 0.11  mg/Kg 
    Sodium 0.38  % 
    Potassium 0.77  % 
    Chloride 0.67  % 
    Iron 236  mg/kg 
    Zinc 226  mg/Kg 
    Copper 18  mg/kg 
    Iodine 3.8  mg/kg 
    Magnesium 21  % 
    Selenium 0.90  mg/kg 
    Arginine 3.17  % 
    Histidine 0.85  % 
    Isoleucine 1.72  % 
    Leucine 2.99  % 
    Lysine 2.86  % 
    Methionine 0.99  % 
    Met-Cysteine 1.39  % 
    Phenylalanine 1.76  % 
    Phe-Tyrosine 3.09  % 
    Threonine 1.75  % 
    Tryptophan 0.42  % 
    Valine 2.08  % 
    Taurine 0.23  mg/kg 
    Choline 4132  mg/Kg 
    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) 5.16  mg/Kg 
    Vitamin B1 (Thiamine) 5.17  mg/Kg 
    Niacin 40  0 
    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) 5.11  mg/Kg 
    Folic Acid 0.80  mg/kg 
    Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) 22  mg/Kg 
    Biotin 0.34  mg/Kg 
    Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin) 10  mg/kg 
    Vitamin A  24271  IU/kg 
    Vitamin C  500  mg/Kg 
    Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) 2366  IU/kg 
    Vitamin E  300  Iu/Kg 
    Vitamin K1 1  IU/kg 
    Calories 3937  Kcal/kg 
    • Gold Top Dog

     I used EVO red meat to put weight on Maze when she went through her "I'm starved" looking faze. It was expesensive but I only had to buy it for two months. Once I got the weight where I wanted in on Maze, I switched to Cal. Nat. and her weight has been fine since.

    Good luck with your hunt. Smile

    • Gold Top Dog

    Im tired of hunting. So so tired of it. I think I will just try Evo. I cant possibly waste anymore money than I already have! 

    • Gold Top Dog

     If it makes you feel better, I went through 15 types of food with Maze before ending up with Evo and Cal. Nat.. Oi...

    • Gold Top Dog

    So far Lillie has been on the following:

    Pedigree(breeder fed it)
    Purina (before I got on this forum didnt know any better)
    Iams (she wouldnt touch it)
    Purina One
    Proplan Performance
    Proplan Selects
    Wellness
    Nutro Natural
    Eagle Pack
    TOTW

    Those were the ones that the petstore that doesnt sell puppies offer along with a few other brands.

    So I give up and am just gonna have to start with the stuff I have to order online.
     

    • Gold Top Dog

    You could try contacting the companies and seeing if they are willing to send you some samples to try first.  That way if they don't like it you haven't spent anything.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Both those products look nice.  

    Sme skinny minnies are that way (assuming they are healthy) because they need more/better food.  You've tried for a year to add more protein and whatnot with sort of meh results.

    Some hard keepers just plain need more calories per bite of food.  I've got one of those.  You can try something like the Evo - give it a week trial, don't buy a huge bag.  Orijen, I think, has a lot of kcals per serving also.  Not all grain frees are concentrated feeds.  That doesn't mean they aren't good - they just may not work for your hard keeper.

    Some dogs have inherited a genetic tendency to need carbs to maintain condition - working breeds in particular.  Ted is like this.  Ben was like this when he was working.  I had an 18 pound BC who when she was intact, literally could not eat enough raw food to keep from looking like I'd starved her (I always had to take her out in public with some other dog of mine to prove it was her, not my managment!).  Carbs pack a lot of calories in a small space, and so it takes less feed to get  more energy in. 

    So if the Evo doesn't work, go ahead and try the carby feeds.  I may have to put in a stock of that food you posted myself for emergency feeding.  Isn't this a great place?  If you hadn't posted that I might never have looked at that - or the Precise!

    • Gold Top Dog

     Brookcove your the one that mentioned K9cuisine once. So I had to check it out. Some of the food is pricey but I cant beat the free shipping on stuff over $50. Heck Im already spending $45 on TOTW.

    I found a site that said it was ok to give dogs bread. So would that be a good carb source? I have tried rice before and it didnt do anything for Lillie except fill her up. I do not have a problem with filling her up just her weight. If bread is ok that would be awesome considering bread is everywhere.Lol. Potatoes are a good carb source right?

    • Gold Top Dog

    The thing about choosing a nice food that just happens to be high in carbs, is that you get more of a balanced diet than just adding bread.  And white people bread isn't that great an option.  The fibery bread is hard for dogs to digest, and the white bread is, well, icky.  I had a dog that was in liver failure basically live off of white bread before, and he did pretty well, but he was 15 years old and just getting the nutrition in him made a huge difference.