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Willow's owner had a bad experience with the food - hence the link to the other thread.

 
Just to clarify, Kelly posted the link and it was not my experience but someone else's dog that had a problem. 

In regards to the sensitive stomach thing, I think the Abady may do the trick.  They state dogs are breaking down and getting sick with all sorts of issues and much of it, if not all is food caused.  They state the improper ingredients commonly found in todays omnivore type rations are causing dogs problems, some more so than others.  Plant matter other than processed grains also being a factor, combined with inadequate levels of animal source proteins to start is going to contribute to difficulties including stomach and digestion.  I think there is a connection.

OOps, I'm sorry.  I must have misread the post because I thought your dog got salmonella from Abady.  Maybe because the other person erased their post, I got confused.  (Or maybe because it's after midnight and I should stop posting and go to bed.)  I still think you care about dogs, though! []
 
I checked out the site Kelly posted, too - WOW!  Looks like the Abady stuff I found there was posted in 2003 and they've changed their contents on at least some of the foods since then.  I saw menadione listed, I wonder if that's out or still in Abady foods today. 

Ok that's kind of funny, I didn't even know that she mentioned Abady specifically. I posted that more for the ingredients to look for/avoid sections since so many Abady ingredients seems to disagree with her views.

BTW, I don't even know Abady's ingredient list. I am going off of the questionable ingredients that have been mentioned in the other Abady threads. They don't have the ingredients listed on the website that I can find and, to me at least, that's one of many red flags.

Abady doesn't even have a website.  They definitely operate "outside the box" which some will view as good and some will view as bad.
 
I couldn't search the dogfoodproject website without signing in, so I did a google for "Abady" on the dogfoodproject site and came back with:
[linkage=13#Post29]http://forums.dogfoodproject.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=29&an=0&age=13#Post29[/link]>http://forums.dogfoodproject.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=29&an=0&age=13#Post29]http://forums.dogfoodproject.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=29&an=0&age=13#Post29[/link]

http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com

Oh, ok, now I see what you were referring to.

Good night!

OOoohhh!!  That must be relatively new!  Didn't exist when I was feeding Abady.  And you're right, no food content list. 

Classic Granular
 
I also was wrong on the feeding tables, what used to take about 1 cup is more like  1 4/5th cup...I think...its been awhile.
 
 

So you did what I did. Took your dog off of what was working to try something else that everyone seemed wild about, only to not have it work. The difference is, I didn't ask anyone's opinion about switching back, I just did it. And I can understand you being cautious about asking if other formulas would work well.  In my experience, you might try going back to what worked and then consider other formulas from Abady if they seem more appropriate.
 

Dogs are omnivores. That is a scientific fact, not just my opinion, which used to be the opposite. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, and foxes do eat plant matter. Sometimes in gut contents, sometimes, straight off of the bush or ground.
 

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In regards to the sensitive stomach thing, I think the Abady may do the trick.  They state dogs are breaking down and getting sick with all sorts of issues and much of it, if not all is food caused.  They state the improper ingredients commonly found in todays omnivore type rations are causing dogs problems, some more so than others.  Plant matter other than processed grains also being a factor, combined with inadequate levels of animal source proteins to start is going to contribute to difficulties including stomach and digestion.  I think there is a connection.

 

I honestly don't understand this rationale. I can't think of a single plant matter based kibble, they're all either meat or grain, and I think we all pretty much agree that a dog's diet should be meat based so how does this particular line of thinking make Abady any better than any other decent kibble?  

For example, Canidae:  

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.  

Pretty much nothing but animal protein and grains. Please, if I'm missing something here explain it to me.

In regards to the sensitive stomach thing, I think the Abady may do the trick. They state dogs are breaking down and getting sick with all sorts of issues and much of it, if not all is food caused. They state the improper ingredients commonly found in todays omnivore type rations are causing dogs problems, some more so than others. Plant matter other than processed grains also being a factor, combined with inadequate levels of animal source proteins to start is going to contribute to difficulties including stomach and digestion. I think there is a connection.

I find it fascinating that so many Abady feeders think that Abady will help allergies, other immune issues, degenerative issues, etc.

My dog has all of the above, plus epilepsy. I've been told, on more than one forum, by more than one person, that Abady could solve all of her issues. This dog, in particular has *known* allergies to chicken, barley, rice, oats, corn, soy, and lots of other foods. This dog does not break down kibbles. They come out whole. Abady granular might help with that problem, but how on earth would it help her allergies, if she's allergic to basically every ingredient? How will it help her epilepsy, if it's a known fact that epileptics do poorly on diets that include glutens and glutamates? How would she do well if it's known that arthritic joints do better without grains?

I'm sure that everybody who feeds Abady cares about their dogs. I'm sure that the dogs do well on it. If they didn't, why would you all pay that much for the food, right? I've just never believed that one food could help every dog, or that one food was good for every dog. They're all unique, and they all need different things. Abady is not something that would help my dog, in any way.