Eagle Pack question

I just want to make an update that is related to this topic....

I switched Wolfie to EP holistic duck & oatmeal (a store in my area just started carrying it) and he seems to like it alot.  I've pretty much "broken him" of his picky habit, so I'm sure he would now eat anything, but he certainly seemed to eat it with gusto, lol.

Could someone please exaplin this fermenting thing further? How would you know it's fermented? Does anyone have any links where i can read about this?

 
Don't know if there is any other information on the Internet, but this is from Linda Arndts website
 
: Do I need to soak my dog#%92s food in warm water first, so they won#%92t bloat?"
 
Soaking your dogs food is a myth an "ole wives tale" left over from the 1960#%92s -70#%92s and often perpetuated by some of the ole timers who have not kept up with current information. Soaking kibble before serving has nothing to do with preventing bloat and in fact, in the early days of grain based foods, it actually promoted bloat. This was due to fermenting grains since the kibble sat for a while and soaked up the water, which allowed bacteria to develop, then it produced gas in the stomach! No, we do not soak any food, not even puppy food for weaning.

Soaking your dogs food is a myth an "ole wives tale" left over from the 1960#%92s -70#%92s and often perpetuated by some of the ole timers who have not kept up with current information. Soaking kibble before serving has nothing to do with preventing bloat and in fact, in the early days of grain based foods, it actually promoted bloat. This was due to fermenting grains since the kibble sat for a while and soaked up the water, which allowed bacteria to develop, then it produced gas in the stomach!

 
Along these same lines, Dr. Lowell Ackerman, DVM, PhD, states:
 
"The most accepted theory is that a number of mechanisms can be responsible for decreased motility of the stomach and a delay in the emptying of the stomach contents into the intestine. For example, the pH of the stomach contents is normally low because the stomach produces acid used in digestion. Few bacteria survive in the stomach because of this acid content. On the other hand, when a very large meal is eaten, the stomach absorbs much of the acid and the pH then rises making it more hospitable for bacteria. If the food does not make its way to the intestines quickly, the bacteria start to ferment the food in the stomach. This produces gas and the stomach distends (dilates). If not treated, the dilated stomach can twist, compressing the blood vessels...."
 
"The goal of dietary management is to create a scenario in which gas is unlikely to accumulate in the stomach at all. It is therefore recommended that you feed your dog an easily digested meal with moderate amounts of protein, fat, and carbohydrates and that you give him smaller meals several times a day. Also, do not give him water for thirty minutes before or after eating, because this may cause the stomach contents to swell and more time will be needed for the contents to empty into the small intestine...... "
 
 
What I get from this is that, by adding water or large amounts of food, you raise (or dilute) the pH of the stomach, which then allows bacteria to grow, fermenting the food and creating gas. I can see this logic.

What I get from this is that, by adding water or large amounts of food, you raise (or dilute) the pH of the stomach, which then allows bacteria to grow,

 
Yeah,,,you know a lot of people hold back water from their dogs at meal time, probably just for this reason,,,but I honestly can't see holding back water. I add it to Bubbys kibble hoping that she gets enough water to satisfy her so she doesn't go "pigging out" on a bunch of water after she finishes her food. It works I think because I feel her in the morning and she never drinks water after...DH feeds her supper and I have a hard time getting him to add anymore than a drop or two of water (which he does add over her powder supplement) and a lot of times she drinks water after she eats.  I would stop her if she drank too much though.  But the think is,,,the moisture has been taken out of kibble,,,I think they need moisture added back in.