Blood In Urine ~ Need Help Quick

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    Blood In Urine ~ Need Help Quick

    Layla just turned 3 y.o. last week and was spayed at 4 months. She is wee wee pad trained and I just found blood in her urine. Two spots about the size of a golf ball. She also had some blood on her little va-jay-jay..... Could this be the sign of a UTI?? She has never bled like this before. I don't want to take any chances.... Thanks!

    *I put this here rather than in health as I thought I might get answers more quickly here, in case I need to take her to the E Vet.

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    It probably is a UTI.  I would watch her closely, & if she seems ok otherwise, I'd take her to the vet first thing in the morning.  For me, as long as she's not lethargic or obviously painful, it wouldn't warrant an e-vet visit. 

    I wouldn't worry about how much blood is there unless she is constantly bleeding.  The blood that you are seeing is probably a lot less than what it appears.  For example, if you cut your finger, & a drop of blood falls on the kitchen counter, & another drop falls on a paper towel, the drop on the paper towel is going to look much larger because it has spread out.  The same thing is going to apply to a drop of blood on a wee wee pad.

    I hope that Layla feels better soon!

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    Not an emergency vet visit (and in any event I'd usually want MY vet to treat such a thing).  However, have you ever had a urinalysis done on her before?  typically dog urine is more on the alkaline side (that's normal for them) but generally when they get an infection it's even *more* so and that's what burns.

    But in asking if you've ever had a urinalysis done - do you know if she tends to have crystals in her urine?  Struvites are the more common and yes, typically grow in urine that's consistently more alkaline.  Oxalate crystals tend to be genetic in nature and grow in urine that's too acid.

    Crystals generally indicate the appearance of infection that needs to be treated.  and I'm NOT saying she has crystals -- only trying to ascertain if you *know* she oxalates in which case the treatment is a bit different.

     But **generally** to make her more comfortable you want to acidify the urine AND make it more dilute.

    My second question -- was the urine on the pad really dark and stinky?  OR was it really light and almost didn't smell like urine?  Is she drinking more or less than usual (both are signs of a UTI.)

    You want her to drink more -- that *will* make her more comfortable (the more dilute the urine the less it burns on exit).  So add water to her food, and even give her syringes of water if you can.  Will she eat ice?  sometimes making a SUPER ***dilute*** broth (even of yogurt or something that is a favorite) and then freezing that, cracking it up and offering it will get them to consume more water.

    You might want to also want to give her cranberry capsules 3-4 times during the day (do you have a Whole Foods near you?  Even Wal-Mart usually has those.)

    Do you have any Vagisil?  Smearing just a small bit on the entrance to the urethra can make going the next time less painful.  (you'll have to repeat when she goes)

    The only thing that truly helps is a vet visit and the right antibiotics.   

     

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    Dang -- I can NOT get this darned thing to let me edit it without crunching all the paragraphs up into one blob. 

    I just called Whole Foods -- they DO have this so you can get it today if you've got a Whole Foods (or anywhere that carries homeopathics that's open on a Sunday -- Chamberlins is also open here in Orlando on Sunday).

    Go and get her a homeopathic called "Cantharis" -- it will be in the homeopathics department in that big rack of Boiron "singles" (the blue tubes).  You want the regular blue tube (not the really 'light" colored blue -- those are too strong) but the "30C" of Cantheris.  (The little tube will be about $6 usually.)Cantheris is going to literally help reduce the inflammation in the urinary tract.  Now you STILL need to get the urine tested *tomorrow* but the cantheris will help reduce that pain more than anything.Now those tubes are heck to get into.  They are made for dispensing into the HUMAN mouth without touching the pellets.  So what you do to get at them -- if you feel down about 2/3" from the top of the clear plastic cap you'll feel the "seam" where the cap seats into the tube (not just the little zip strip where it comes "off" but you actually have to remove the entire top assembly and that's buried under the label).  Score that all the way around with a knife.CAREFULLY twist that til you know it's free and then remove that whole top dispenser assembly. 

    There are a zillion little teeny tiny pellets inside there.  Use tweezers and pick out 3-4 and put that cap assembly back on.  I put them in a folded piece of paper (folded in quarters so it makes a point in the center to hold them).  Fold the paper back up so it traps these little tiny pellets inside and use a small hammer or even the flat of the blade of a big butcher knife to CRUSH them (they'll shatter into dust with pressure)

    Then, wet the tip of your finger and touch just a tiny bit of that dust and put on her tongue so she sees they taste GREAT.  Usually then they'll lick up the rest of the dust.

    However, touching it like that is only to give her the idea it's yummy.  Generally **don't** touch those pellets -- the *only* reason I told you to touch it with a wet finger was to give her the idea it's sweet. 

    Handling homeopathic pellets is a no no -- skin oil decreases their efficacy greatly -- so you never handle them (which is why they designed such an intricate contraption to allow you to twist that 'collar' and the pellets drop into your mouth -- but to give them to the dog means you have to get creative on how to get into the danged thing.)

    ***DO NOT*** put in food, or anything else.  You want this dust to go directly on her tongue - it is absorbed in the mouth (and preferably under the tongue but that's not easy).  Or you can just fold that paper and pour the dust directly into her mouth .   It's sweet -- it's like candy so she won't mind it at all. 

    This will begin to relieve the painful symptoms almost immediately. 

    This is NOT going to 'cure' the UTI -- that's bacteria and it needs antibiotics.  This will just relieve the painful urination.  You can repeat this in an hour (that's called a "loading dose";) and then give it to her a couple more times today but then get her to the vet in the morning. 
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    ARRRUGHHHH!!!!!  I tried FOUR TIMES and the board edit function won't let me break that long paragraph up. Sorry!! (and I'm not on a Mac - I've never seen it be this stubborn grrr)

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    Thank you Callie..... There is a natural food store just up the street.... I can't remember the name of it, but I'm getting ready to drive up there. She just pee'd again and it seems darkish and has a strongish odor. There was not any blood this time, but I will continue to monitor it, try to get the Cantharis from the store and take her in tomorrow.

    The thing I've noticed with Layla is.... she doesn't drink for long periods and then will drink almost an entire bowl of water. They each get about 4 TBSP of high quality, non-fat yogurt every morning and always have water available. She seems fine otherwise, but I can imagine that UTI's are as uncomfortable for dogs as they are for us and that's *not* fun!!!

    I'm also watching the frequency of her urination and trying to limit the times she goes outside so I can monitor her urine for blood on her wee wee pad.

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    Casey is sorta like that - so to insure he's getting a good amount of water, and not all at once, I mixed water in with his kibble.

    Hope she feels better soon!

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    Besides a possible UTI, I was wondering if she is straining to urinate / having and difficulty urinating, or only urinating small amounts? The blood can be an indication of stones; it was the first signs we saw.

    One thing you could do is go to a local pharmacy and pick up some urine dipsticks and dip her urine yourdelf. I have a dog that often gets UTIs and stones and we keep them on hand.

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    Sending Layla plenty of feel better vibes.  

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    erica1989

    Casey is sorta like that - so to insure he's getting a good amount of water, and not all at once, I mixed water in with his kibble.

    Hope she feels better soon!

     

    I do this too, with Rascal. Often I will add about a half teaspoon of something extra tasty so he isn't so unhappy about the water - maybe a tiny bit of canned salmon, or some meat drippings, or something like that.

    If I don't, in the summer, he often gets dehydrated and doesn't have anything to pee when I take him outside!

    I also give him ice cubes as snacks sometimes. He likes licking at them and pushing them around on the floor.

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    I home cook for them along with giving them Evo Red Meat Small Bites, so they do get steamed veggies every day. I did recently change their morning feeding to giving them their yogurt first and then just dry kibble without their usual meat and veggie topping. Layla needs to lose a couple of lbs and Abbie is more of a dinner time gal so she wasn't eating all of her food in the a.m. and Layla would gobble it down. Sometimes I give them the baby meat sticks cut up in their morning food, but not always and I'll drench the kibble in the warm broth from the jar.

    Just now we came in from taking the trash out - maybe 5 minutes cuz it's so darn hot in Florida right now and I had to literally place Layla in front of the water bowl to drink. She is so picky about having cold fresh water from the fridge that I think I've spoiled her. We used to have a fridge w/water in the door at our house..... When I'm at work all day it's impossible for the water to be changed, but I do it when I feed them in the a.m. and as soon as I get home. I do freeze yogurt w/a little peanut butter or baby fruit in their kongs and give it to them in the morning right before I leave for work. I don't do it every day though, maybe a couple of times a week. I'll start doing it more often.

    I've made arrangements w/work so I can take her to the vet in the a.m. I sure hope it's not crystals.

    How do you do the dipstick test?

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     All you need to do is collect a urine in a container. Then I use a syringe to put droplets of the urine on the test strips. Tip of any excess urine and wait the amount of time it tells you and read the results......this you could google to she normal and abnoral values and what they mean. We have well water that throws off Skylla's pH so I dip her urine weekly to check it. Once the pH starts going out of range I know it is time to intervene. If you are going to the vet tomorrow just wait until hen. I am sure they have urine sticks so just ask them to show you how.

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    If she's picky about having COLD water, why not freeze a big Glad container full of water and then when it's frozen upend it into a baking dish -- it takes a LONG time to thaw that way and can keep them in cool water a long time.

    But it's definitely the time for UTIs -- keep the cantarthis to have on hand when YOU get one too -- definitely helps with that horrible pain.

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     Are the meat sticks not too salty?

     

    I generally soak kibble, AND offer baited water most days. I'll either do water with a spoonful of canned, or water with broth, or I'll buy water additives (K9 Quencher is my current fav, the dogs love the ice cream flavor). Almost daily, I offer some sort of wet "snack" like watermelon or cantaloupe. I'm a big water pusher, and have become that way because Emma gets UTIs very easily. As long as I push, push, push water, she doesn't. 

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    How in the world do you get drops of urine from your dog??? I don't think Layla would let me go near her rear while she's pottying! :)

    I love the idea of freezing a big cube of water for them. They do like ice cubes, but they melt so fast. I realized after moving that I cannot give them tap water as it causes tear and beard staining, so I'll use water from the jug.

    The baby food meat sticks don't have the salt content like those adult canned little ones do. The baby ones as well as the jars of baby meat are actually pretty healthy. I use the meat and freeze in their Kongs for them sometimes. They absolutely love it!!

    Thanks for the good vibes - I hope it's just a simple UTI and nothing more..........