AIHA or IMHA

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    GratefulDawg
     Overall though things are going steady.  No scares and no panic attacks.  I think she's getting used to the medicine.  She wants to go on walks so we take very short ones at her pace.  I've noticed that the more she moves the better she is getting around.

    Oh, another thing.. her heart murmur is 100% gone.  No sign of it whatsoever.  Doctor said that when her blood was so thin at 9% it was just leaking past those heart valves and now its resolved itself

      That's great news; way to go Cyclops!!!!!

    GratefulDawg
    We are going to increase her Cyclosporine from 150mg 2x/day to 200mg 2x/day

     I hope that helps to increase her CBC; fingers and paws crossed here.

     

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    Glad to see you posted -- it took forever to regulate Billy as well.  But just keeping her from 'crashing' is pretty danged huge!

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    Hello there. I was directed to this forum by someone on another community because a couple days after Christmas our rottie Meeka was diagnosed with AIHA. I saw your posts and couldn't believe it. We are in Fayetteville and also go to Wedington. We're seeing Dr. Bonnie Maclaughlin. Dr. Wright has been keeping an eye on the case because Dr. Mac is only in a few days a week...and we saw Dr. Cypra(?) last week when Meeka hurt herself and had to get some pain meds and muscle relaxers....and I just got off the phone with Dr. Baker to ask about her suddenly getting sick from they cyclo (he has me picking up an anti-nausea medicine in a few hours to try and settle her stomach on the cyclo, but he sounded worried that it took so long for her to start showing side effects).

    I turned to the internet because we're exhausted and worried. Our big worry is that Meeka has been on Cyclosporine for three weeks now. We've read about it on the internet and everything says that 200-300mg is the high end of a dosing, but they've got Meeka on 400mg twice daily...and they keep telling us that this is the low end of dosing for a dog her size (she's 90lbs now, though she was 112lbs before she got sick). The last few days the Cyclosporine has been making her sick and today it was an absolute battle to get her to take it at all. I have never had this trouble...our Meeka is a trooper and she trusts me and would eat a hunk of rock if I offered it to her before.

    I feel like I am losing my mind. Sometimes I think she seems better...and her numbers have been going up slowly...she went from a 4 and our vet telling us she wasn't likely to make it through the night to a 19-20 on her last visit. But days like today I think I've just been kidding myself and seeing what I want to see...and now I feel like I've destroyed her trust in me because if I go anywhere near the kitchen where her meds are she runs and hides.

    Anyways. I didn't mean to go on in that way. I just couldn't believe that in the big wide internet world I came across a page where someone going to the same vet clinic is posting within days of my reading. I meant to post days ago, but then the ice hit and we've been scrambling to get back to normal since then.
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    Hi Kassie.  Sorry to hear about your girl, Meeka.  I don't know much about this horrible disease other than what I have learned from this thread but I just wanted to say that I am glad you found your way here.  I know that Callie and others will check here and give you their thoughts and share their experiences with you. I hope the meds help her nausea.  Sending you healing thoughts and hoping things improve soon.

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    Hi, all!  I hope this is the right account--for some reason the boards didn't recognize me at one point and I made another.  On the other boards I used to frequent during Emma's illness (IG Post), they've moved servers or something and now require a non-gmail account.  Grr.

    In any case, I wanted to weigh in and say that Emmy is doing WONDERFULLY well.  She was diagnosed with IMHA the first of July two years ago.  I still haven't fully recovered, myself (though she seems to have!) and find myself checking her tongue, paws, etc., to make sure they're still PINK!  And anytime she seems even slightly slower than usual, I go into overprotective mode.  

    To add to the database:

    Emma: Italian greyhound

    5 yrs, 2 months at time of onset

    I was feeding Iams at the time, I think (switched to Canidae and now Solid Gold), with Iams treats as well (I've upgraded those, too)

    IGs don't need bathing very often, so I don't.  No, really.

    I use Advantage; I'm thinking about switching to every 45 days if it seems safe (fewer chemicals=A Good Thing)

    No flea collar.  With these guys, you generally see ticks and such before they have a chance to get a good hold.  I think I saw a tick on her once, when she was a puppy (it didn't get a chance to bite her before I brushed it off)

    In Emma's case, she got sick about a month after her yearly vaccines.  What makes me ILL is that I had just done some research online about how we over-vaccinate, and I SPECIFICALLY SAID to the vet tech that I'd rather not have her have all the shots if they weren't absolutely necessary.  I was told that they were.  Wish I'd stuck to my guns; the vet said it was probably the four-way shot that did it. :(

    Emma's lowest red blood cell count was 8.5.  This was AFTER she'd had a transfusion; she had 4 1/2 total, I think.  She was on pred and cyclosporin for a really long time; it got very expensive, but I had vowed to myself that if something horrible ever happened to her, I'd just hand over my credit card and spend years paying it off, if necessary.  I understand that that's not something everyone could do, and my parents helped a LOT with her emergency vet bills.  I also understand that this is one of those diseases you can't just throw money at and guarantee a cure.  We could have spent all that money (about $5k, I think) and still lost her.  We didn't, but we could have.  I don't take that lightly, and I understand why someone might make a different choice.  The way I was emotionally at the time, I just couldn't.

    She now tests at anywhere from 53 to 57.  Yes, really.  I thought only the regular greyhounds got that high, but that complete wellness physical (that really became a SICKNESS-giving physical) showed that she was normally in the fifties.  We joke that she should be a blood donor.

    I will never, ever have her vaccinated again.  She'll be titered for rabies from now on, and the only thing I will give her is the Advantage.  Wish I didn't even have to do that, but we're in south Florida (Tampa).  I've actually had waking nightmares that I take her to the vet and some well-meaning tech comes back out and says "I noticed you haven't been vaccinating her, so I went ahead and did that.  You really need to keep up on those."  I usually come out of it just before my hands close around his or her neck....

    I thank God every time I think of it for my Emma's life.  We're in our second year of grace so far, and I pray her good health continues.

    I also thank God for Callie and the other good folks here who helped me through a very difficult time.  It really does change you, and some of the ways in which it changes you are good.  I'm more grateful for the little things every day with Ems now, and, I hope, more patient with her.  She is a gift that I've been given twice now....

    <3 Wendy (and Emma!)

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    Hey, I'm glad to see that Emma is doing well! I think of her periodically :)
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     I did talk to kassie - I'm hoping she calls me or pops back in for an update!

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    THANKS CALLIE.  SHE HAD ASKED QUESTIONS ON   DOGSTER AND I TOLD HER TO COME HERE, AS THERE WAS A SPECIAL THREAT FOR AIHA.  I AM GLAD SHE DID AND HOPE SHE FINDS ANSWERS.  I ALSO SUGGESTED THE TOTAL AIHA FORUM BUT DIDN'T HAVE EXACT ADDRESS AS I JUST HI FAVORITES ON MY COMUTER AND IT COMES UP.  I AM NOT SURE I GAVE HER GOOD ENOUGH DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO GET THERE.

     I AM GLAD EMMY IS DOING SO WELL.  IT WILL HAVE BEE 5 YEAS COME OCT. 16 SINCE I LOST MY HUNTER TO AIHA FOLLOWING PROHEART6 INJECTION.  AND I STILL FIND MYSELF CHECKING HONEY'S GUMS, TONGUE, LOOKIN AT THE COLOR OF THE WHITES OF HER YEYES, ETC.  IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO EAT BREAKFAST, I GET ALL WORRIED.   I THINK ONCE WE HAVE BEEN THRU THIS DISEASE, WE WILL ALWAYS B A LITTLE NEUROTIC ABOUT OUR DOGS COMING DOWN WITH IT.

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     I did talk to kassie -- and Meeka is doing well.  She went back to her vet and saw the 'head vet' -- I'll let her tell the rest but he's been taking superb care of Meeka for her.  They were on their way to see her when I spoke to her.

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    We lost Meeka today. Just got home. She crashed overnight. Nothing left they could do. Her lungs were filling with fluids.
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     this horrible horrible disease -- I HATE IT.  It steals ... you think you're doing well and suddenly it's gone.  Kassie I am SO sorry. 

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    Oh no. I am so, so sorry to hear about Meeka.
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    Kassie, I am so terribly sorry to hear about Meeka. 

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    Oh, God, I recognize you from the other forum and I'm so sorry to hear about Meeka.  As I was going thru ITP with Willow I felt like I was in a constant tug of war with something for her. 

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     Kassie, I'm so, so sorry about Meeka;{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}