traditional breed haircuts

    • Gold Top Dog

     Makes me miss grooming, but I had to give it up my exboss was a nightmare with making new rules on clients dogs and I didn't want to do some of those things like high poodle feet.

     

    We had a client that she put her poodle in a puppy clip ever since she got him as puppy he is a little over a year old now. I love working on him and did him several times he was gorgeous just a joy to work with. Alot of people where suprise with our clips and we had another groomer in the area that would do a sch. clip, but never cut the back legs to the hocks it looked just like a cocker clip. Fun clips are always the best the weirdest yet cute clip was a shih tzu that the owner would do a #5 on the body then clyde dale feet and full head and face it was just the cutest little thing when done.

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    jennie_c_d

    From the AKC site, " A Poodle under a year old may be shown in the "Puppy" clip with the coat long. The face, throat, feet and base of the tail are shaved. The entire shaven foot is visible. There is a pompon on the end of the tail. In order to give a neat appearance and a smooth unbroken line, shaping of the coat is permissible."

    Ok, so the face is supposed to be shaved.  No wonder - she would ask for a puppy cut and was always complaining that the groomer would clip the face too short. Confused

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    ahh the infamous "puppy cut." *laughs*. That's like saying you want just a "little bit" trimmed off. A little bit (puppy cut) could be as long as 3 inches all over with a TB face, or could be 1/2 inch and shaved face and feet.

     I had one lady with a full coated yorkie ask if we could layer her dog's hair like people. I told her it was possible, but it wouldn't look right.

    And, everybody does their pet clips differently. I know when I had Daisy, before I became a groomer, I would take her places, and to them a TB clip with a TB face meant a #7 on the body, and also on the face/cheeks/chin. She looked like a pekegnise!

     that and do you ever notice that the show schnauzers have very short skirts and column-like legs? When most pet clips I do on schnauzers the owners love the long flowing skirt.

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    jennie_c_d
    In order to give a neat appearance and a smooth unbroken line, shaping of the coat is permissible."

     

     

    LOL, "shaping" indeed.  They take ALL of the coat off the chest, butt, and behind the stifle.  You have to wonder if breed founders who wrote the standard were envisioning the dog pictured in your post...it's more than "shaped", IMO.Smile

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     If the breed founders saw most of the dogs being shown today, they'd be pretty disgusted. I mean, 95% of the "hairless" Cresteds in the ring have to have thier entire bodies shaved.

    • Gold Top Dog

    My parents' Bouvier gets a puppy cut with a beard. Kind of a schnauzer do. He looks really cute that way and his coat care is much easier. I think Bouviers must be one of the hardest dogs to keep in a full, show, coat, because it mats so easily, is so thick, and is like velco for dirt and debris.

     

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    Pit_Pointer_Aussie

    I think Bouviers must be one of the hardest dogs to keep in a full, show, coat, because it mats so easily, is so thick, and is like velco for dirt and debris.

    I didn't groom for very long, but I think that's probably true! At the first place I worked there was a Bouvier that came in once a week. She was in a full coat and I would just about cry when I saw her because her coat was SO hard to comb out. Since it was my first job grooming (bathing and prep type of stuff) I didn't exactly know what I was doing either.

    I love puppy clips on Poodles! If I ever had one, that's how I would keep them groomed. I wasn't a big fan of Poodles until I started working in a grooming shop. Their hair is so fun to groom! I love how the hair is kind of tight and curly and then as you brush them while blow drying, the hair gets straight and fluffy.

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    bluelighting

    ...the weirdest yet cute clip was a shih tzu that the owner would do a #5 on the body then clyde dale feet and full head and face it was just the cutest little thing when done.

    That sounds similar to the way I clipped Gingerbread yesterday. I used a #15 on his body (I know too short, but that's the only blade I have right now), I kept a full face and head with topknot and left his legs long. I don't know what the clip is called, or even if it has a name, but I've seen pics of other Shih Tzu groomed the same way.

    If you go to the link below and scroll all the way to the bottom, the center pic has the same haircut that I gave Gingerbread.

    http://www.fairytailshihtzu.com/page7.html

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    Luvntzus

    I love puppy clips on Poodles! If I ever had one, that's how I would keep them groomed. I wasn't a big fan of Poodles until I started working in a grooming shop. Their hair is so fun to groom! I love how the hair is kind of tight and curly and then as you brush them while blow drying, the hair gets straight and fluffy.

    Poodles are fun to groom. I had Diesel in a PWD clip, Bichon Frise clip, Puppy clip, Continental clip and now a bikini clip. The bikini clip as to be my favorite clip by far. When Diesel used to be in the puppy clip, I would put baby powder on his body while blowdrying him and he would turn into this big fluff ball. Thank goodness he is such a light apricot, I could get away with the baby powder.
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     Doesn't surprise me at all that people don't know what their dogs breed standard is suppose to look like.  Can't count how many times when at the dog park I've heard people complain that the they wish they knew their Shih-tzu, poodle, yorkie, maltese, ect needed regular grooming because they had no idea their hair would keep growing if it wasn't trimmed.

     Sometimes sadly however groomers can be just as bad.  Not long after I got Kirby I decided I wanted to take him to a groomer because I wanted to see how the professionals do a sanitary cut shave the fur between the pads of his feet.  The first place I went to about prices and such, Petsmart, three of the staff members there tried to convince me that not only would I want to get a sanitary cut, but I would want to get a puppy cut to shave him down some so his fur would be easier to manage...  Needless to say, I decided to keep Kirby far away from their ever ready clippers. @__@

    • Gold Top Dog

    Funny, I've always thought that Bouviers were very easy to groom, for a large, coated breed! Their coat is easy to comb, they dry fairly quickly and the scissoring is simple. Most of the ones I used to do didn't come in that often but they were much quicker to do than a standard poodle. Sweet dispositions too!  I suspect that regional differences in breeding make a difference in coat type, The ones I used to do had hard coats that brushed out very easily.

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    Most of the schnauzer clients I have really like the tailored appearance of the traditional cut. I've always felt like the long flowing coat was a strange variation of a cocker cut. Many that I've seen with the long skirt don't have the back of the rear legs trimmed either. But like I've said before, I do whatever the owner wants.

    Over the years I've seen a lot of schnauzers with skin problems caused by shaving the body to close. Normally, I won't use anything shorter than a  #7 on the body unless the owners insist, and I rarely see any skin irritations on my regular clients.

     

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    dstull

    Funny, I've always thought that Bouviers were very easy to groom, for a large, coated breed! Their coat is easy to comb, they dry fairly quickly and the scissoring is simple. Most of the ones I used to do didn't come in that often but they were much quicker to do than a standard poodle. Sweet dispositions too!  I suspect that regional differences in breeding make a difference in coat type, The ones I used to do had hard coats that brushed out very easily.

    Oh my gosh, this one wasn't like that! She had a soft, cottony coat that was almost impossible to brush out. I would describe it as being kind of wooly. She was clipped every so often, so I guess it changed the texture. She was a very nice, patient dog thank goodness.

    • Bronze
    Yes I find that most people do not know 'traditional' breed haircut. I got my cocker's hair butchered so many times by bad groomers, I learned to do it myself. I wanted it to be as close to the 'traditional' cut as possible.
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    Luvntzus

    dstull

    Funny, I've always thought that Bouviers were very easy to groom, for a large, coated breed! Their coat is easy to comb, they dry fairly quickly and the scissoring is simple. Most of the ones I used to do didn't come in that often but they were much quicker to do than a standard poodle. Sweet dispositions too!  I suspect that regional differences in breeding make a difference in coat type, The ones I used to do had hard coats that brushed out very easily.

    Oh my gosh, this one wasn't like that! She had a soft, cottony coat that was almost impossible to brush out. I would describe it as being kind of wooly. She was clipped every so often, so I guess it changed the texture. She was a very nice, patient dog thank goodness.

     

    Clipping does make the coat woolly and harder to manage Smile My sister has a wiry dog and his coat is just ruined from being clipped, despite her ASKING the groomers NOT to clip him.  Indifferent