Update on Cole's eye (Iris Cyst) - Updated again Feb 2008

    • Gold Top Dog

    Update on Cole's eye (Iris Cyst) - Updated again Feb 2008

    *****Updated Feb 14 2008****

    Rather than start a new post in the proper Health Section, I thought I would just update this one.  Cole had his eye surgery yesterday.  The cyst that was found in his left eye had gotten slightly larger and I was not comfortable waiting any longer.  The amazing thing is that when I took him in yesterday, the vet found a SECOND CYST in his right eye!  This one was quite small and clearly had developed recently.  So it was a good thing to have waited or I'd have been right back in the doctor's office paying full price for another surgery - this one was a two-fer! 

    The entire surgery took about 30 minutes.  The treatment for the removal of an uveal cyst is basically to just stick a small needle through the cornea and suck the cyst out.  It's done under a microscope.  Total cost of the surgery was $1600.  Steep, but I can look into Cole's beautiful burnt sugar brown eyes again without seeing any obstructions.  He's doing just fine!  He has to have Pred Acetate eye drops 2x a day for a week and then 1x a day for another week, and he is on Rimadyl twice a day for 2 weeks for pain and inflammation.  He's a champ! 

    I wanted to update this in case anyone else has had to deal with uveal cysts.  Apparently they are most common in Labs and Goldens, but I have been involved with dogs for years, mostly in the Lab community and no one I know has ever encountered this or even heard of it before.  The eye surgeons say they probably remove a dozen of these a year, and that's from the whole surrounding suburban Chicago area.  So I would say it is pretty rare - and nearly unheard of that Cole would have bilateral cysts, not to mention having more than one in the course of a lifetime.  The odds are like a million to one.  I should play the lottery! 

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    So Cole and I went to the canine opthalmologist on Saturday morning to check on his iris cyst.  I've posted about this here before, but if you need a refresher Wikipedia actually had the best information on iris cysts in dogs:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_cyst
    Good news is, it's confirmed to be an iris cyst and not melanoma.  They recommend surgery to remove it.  The plus side is that iris cysts are usually one per customer, they don't regrow and there's no sign of any more in either eye.  Apparently they form in the vitreous humor inside the eye and float out of the pupil, floating around in between the iris and the cornea as they grow.  Bad news is, it will eventually burst if not removed and that can cause issues.  It's very darkly pigmented, so when it bursts all the junk inside is going to spew over his eye.  If it bursts at the bottom of his iris, no big deal, but if it bursts over his pupil it can cause a vision obstruction.  Plus there is a risk of an infection from it.  Surgery is a relatively quick procedure that requires about 20-30 minutes of general anesthesia and the cyst is needle aspirated and deflated.

    What stinks is, the surgery costs a bloody $1300-$1500!  That's almost as much as I paid for a TPLO repair for another dog.  Since there aren't many canine opthalmologists in the world, this place is the only game in town.  The nearest teaching vet-med hospital is at University of Illinois Champain-Urbana, about 4 hours drive.  The nice thing about the place I took Cole to is they are close by, it would be easy to drop him in the morning and come pick him up after work.  If I take him to a teaching hospital it's going to be a long drive - probably two round trips since I'm sure they won't do surgery the day they see him - and I'm sure that will eat up any money I'd save by taking him to a university. 

    I don't think anyone else here has any experience with iris cyst removals but if you do, could you please comment?  I paid $180 on Saturday for a 30 minute vet visit.  Seriously it cost me $90 to have them put paper strips in Cole's eyes to check tear production ( a 20 second thing) and then bounce some stuff off his eye to check glaucoma (another 5 seconds).  (Tear production was normal and eye pressure was low at 10, normal is 12-15).  It just seems wrong that they charge so much because they can. 
     
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    I guess what I'm really looking for here is What Would You Do?  Would you do the surgery or just wait and see what happens and fix it if it becomes a problem???  I don't want to put my dog at risk, but I'm not sure I really am if I wait and see what happens. 

    • Gold Top Dog
    No experience here but just wanted to say I'm glad it's not melanoma for Cole! That's great news (but the cost of the surgery sucks)  Hope someone can come along with more info for you.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Well that is good news that it's not melanoma, but I'd probably feel like you regarding the surgery.  I'm a worrier though, so if I could afford it, I'd probably just go for it.  What is the worst case scenario if you don't have the surgery and it bursts? 
    • Gold Top Dog
    Worst case scenario is if it burst and got junk all over the inside of his eye, it could cause a vision obstruction and it would be harder for them to get in there and clean everything out than if the whole thing were contained inside the cyst.  But it wouldn't mean that he loses his eye or anything like that.  
    • Gold Top Dog
    Well on the one hand, it's probably not going to cause the loss of his eye, but on the other hand, if it's inevitable, it would probably be less expensive and more convenient to do it before it bursts.  I guess I'm not a good one to be asking because as I said, I'm a worrier.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Having had (for me) really disruptive amounts of vet bills over the last month, I'd probably opt for the long drive. If you get 17mpg it's going to cost you about $75 in gas to go to the vet hospital in Urbana and back. I'd call them and find out what the costs of the surgery there are and compare. If it is just as high, you might as well stay at home. I'm going to guess it's going to be half of what the vet office charges, though, and you'd still save quite a bit.

    I would take care of the cyst before it bursts. It sounds pretty chaotic to deal with it after it bursts and there is more risk to Cole's eye that way, too. If you wait you'll probably feel really bad if it causes problems.

    • Gold Top Dog
    It's not just the drive down and back to the U of I, I would have to take 2 days off work and probably stay overnight down there, and that's IF they did surgery the next day.  Which is doubtful.  So I'd be looking at probably two tanks of gas ($100) and then a hotel stay, plus an unpaid day off work since I've already planned out vacation time for the summer.  So now we're looking at probably $500 or so in opportunity cost that would have to be made up before it would be a consideration.
     
    I think I'm going to opt for the surgery, it just pisses me off that they can charge so much for a 30-minute procedure, not to mention the ridiculous fees for the tests I paid on Saturday. 
    • Gold Top Dog

    Bumping for update.

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    • Gold Top Dog

    Wow I am so glad everything went well - that is amazingly rare - zowie!

     

    Good thoughts coming to Cole for a speedy recovery!! 

    • Gold Top Dog

    That's great that you found the 2nd one so early. We might need some photos for verification, though. Wink 

    • Gold Top Dog

    LOL!  You will have some soon - gotta break out the camera this weekend and take some pictures of ebberboddy. 

    • Puppy

    12/27/12 Hello.  My 7 yr. old Australian cattle dog also has been diagnosed w/an Iris cyst and the opthomologist is recommending surgery (same needle aspirate as Cole's).  I saw your post and although it's an old posting, I was wondering how satisfied you were with the result of Cole's eye surgery to remove the iris cyst.  How quickly did he heal after the surgery? How long did you have to continue eye drops for? Did he have good visiion afterwards? Did he look like he was in pain after the surgery and how quickly did he totally heal up? If you had to do it all over again, would you?

    I hope you read this and respond.  Thanks in advance!

    • Gold Top Dog

    PudgeyWudgey
    I hope you read this and respond.  Thanks in advance!

    You might try sending a msg to her. Some people have it set up so that private msgs come to their email accounts.

    • Gold Top Dog

     She doesn't post much on here anymore I don't think. I sent her a message on fb.

    ETA: She said that she hasn't been on here so long that she doesn't even know how to log in anymore. She wanted me to pass on the following:

    "We had no complications, no pain issues, drops were only needed postop as instructed, no recurrences and yes I'd have done it all over again, lol!"