URGENT !!!! NEED HELP PLEASE !!!!

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    URGENT !!!! NEED HELP PLEASE !!!!

    Everyone  &  Anyone !!!!

    i have a 4month old male beagle. yesterday i notice alil pink tone under his nose. more like he got into something he ate but after giving him a bath it was still there. today i came home from work and i seem to have gotten more red than yesterday. im unsure of what it could be... also i notice that he walks with a lil limp, he was running around yesterday with no problem and when i took him out his crate he has a lil limp. i also remember him, nibbling and licking his foot. i thought it was normal but this evening when i went to check it out close when he was licking again, he groudled and when i touch it he nipped me !

    i work from 5:30am til 3:30-4pm. so i have him in his crate with his toys, water & food.  he put up a fight to go inside and barks and gets upset when he is in there... i know all last week when i would come home, he would be able to push the bottom tray completely out of the crate. then i would come home to his poop on the floor. couple days ago i placed a lock on one of the bars so the tray doesnt slide out.  when i come home he poops all over the crate, i wipe him down, his feet, his butt, where their is poop on him.

    just today he wasnt acting his playful and active way. very quiet, the sad look. walking with a lil limp and trying to bite, lick & nibble his foot. if anyone can help please comment, i also added pics so u can see what his mouth looks life before and after, thank u.

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    • Gold Top Dog

     It kinda looks like his whiskers are broken off around that area too.  It might be that he is clawing and chewing the crate while you're gone and he has rubbed his little lips raw doing it.  Is there a way you could come home at lunch and let him out?  That might cut down on his anxiety and resistance to being in the crate.  If he's pooping in the crate while you're gone, it's a sign that it's too long and he can't hold it.  And I've heard that once they get comfortable pooping in their crate, it's a hard habit to break.  If you can't come home at lunch, is there a bathroom that you could gate him into safely and see if his lips and foot seem to heel.  I think that might indicate that it was from the crate.

    Just some thoughts.  Good luck! 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Not to get personal, but how many times during your work day do YOU visit the bathroom?  And yep, it's a trick question because if you even visit ONE time, as an adult, how do you expect a pup who is still a baby to hold it longer than you can?  A pup this age should be able to wait five hours MAX, but if he's fed before you leave, well, he just isn't going to be able to wait that long.

    It looks to me like he is hurting himself trying to escape the crate so he doesn't have to toilet in it.  If you can't do a dog walker for him, or puppy day care, I'd suggest putting his crate inside an exercise pen so that he can leave the crate and potty inside the pen.  Just make a specific potty place for him and he'll most likely use it.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I have to agree. You need to rethink having your pup confined for such a long period. He is just to young. An X pen is a good idea or you could possibly create a safe area in your home like the kitchen area.

    • Gold Top Dog

     

    The reason I suggest an x pen is because most of us just can't think like a dog and it's really hard to puppy proof an entire room.  That involves child locks on cupboards, a complete reorganization of the counters, etc and we're gonna miss SOMETHING.  I've actually had pups manage to get behind the fridge......which has a power cord that's plugged IN and a danger as well.  By the time you totally puppy proof a room, it's probably cheaper to pick up an x pen, and a lot less work.  Maybe freecycle or craigslist?
    • Gold Top Dog

    I fear someone has told you "crate training" is magic and that a dog shouldn't soil in their crate.  They don't like to -- but if pushed longer than they can physically hold it they will soil, and they will then hate the crate.

    The rule of thumb is that baby pups will **with proper training** be able to hold it about one hour per month old they are.  So your pup is quite a way from being physically capable (even with the right kind of "crate training";) to hold it for a full work-day. 

    Somehow you need to arrange for someone, somehow to be able to let this little mite out during the day.  It truly is the only way. 

    I know you may have 'been told' all you have to do is put the dog in the crate and they'll "hold it".  But that's just plain bad information.  And a dog that has learned to be *this* stressed while crated is going to have a tough time.  At this point just backing up to letting the dog out mid-day ... he may have worked himself into such a dither he'll resist the crate. 

    How willingly does he go *in* the crate?  Are you crating at night?  How much does the dog bark and howl when in the crate?

    We'll try to help you ... but sometimes it's necessary to re-evaluate whether or not the information you had was right and to try some extreme measures to get things back on the right track again.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'd also say way too long in that crate, when I first got Bonnie she could only hold it about 2 hours,  she is now 5 months old and still wants out to wee from her crate at night after about 4 and a half hours.  Poor little guy, his mouth looks terribly sore.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Likely has hurt the paw/leg trying to dig out of the crate (which is why he was moving the pan) -- you may want to inspect the nails/toes carefully -- he probably should go to the vet in case he's injured the patella/joint.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I agree with everything everyone has said here. He is in his crate for to long! An X-pen is a good idea, it allows him more room and the same confinement. The redness is from him trying to get out of his crate.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'd say the same thing---it looks like the poor thing is trying to get out,biting on the wire door. It would be better if you could at least confine her to your kitchen , being that it's such a long time. We almost always take the dogs with, but when we can't,we also leave on the TV or radio when gone, just to add some life to the empty house.

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    Everyone,

    thank you for ur concern and advice.  Andy is doing much better. he is back to his old, wild, hyper self. what i did was bought a gate to close him off to walk around in a space part of the hallway, bathroom and access to his crate. 3 times more room for him than he had then just being in the crate. no more limp and his mouth is going down. i believe it was him doing that trying to get out of the crate, espically if he has to use the bathroom because he is always going on his weewee pad.

    again tks...