Puppy can't keep anything down

    • Bronze

    Puppy can't keep anything down

    My dog Sadie is a miniature schnauzer and for the past week has not been able to keep ANY food down.  There are no bloody stools or anything like that, so I'm pretty sure it's not Parvo.  And she has an appetite...she wants to eat, she just vomits everything that she ingests.  If anyone has any ideas on this topic, please let me know because our vet seems to be pretty clueless about the whole thing and isn't being much help at all.  Please help!  [:(]
    • Silver
    Perhaps you can take her to another vet.  Is she eating too fast, too much.  Your dog may have an allergic reaction to the type of food you are feeding it.  Perhaps you can try a single soucre protien type food and give just a little.  If she holds it down, give a little more, just do it slowly.  If she throws it up then try a different protien source.  If anything, keep her well hydrated as throwing ususally coorelates to the loss of fluids.  Good luck with this.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Another vet NOW. It is not a good thing when your vet is clueless over the issue. Seek another vet for their professional help now.
    • Bronze
    Thank you for the ideas.  I'll give that a try.  She's not eating too much too fast or anything like that.  And she's 9 months old and has been eating the same food for a long time, so we've ruled out an allergic reaction.  The vet gave her an anti-nausea shot and some special food, and she was able to keep that down but only right after the shot.  Then this morning, when I fed her, she didn't keep it down.  I think the shot just staved off the vomiting.  So, I will try a different protein source and see what that does.  Thanks for the reply.
    • Gold Top Dog
    There could be many issues causing the vomiting. Have you done a stool sample to rule out parasites? Has your vet done any x-rays to rule out a blockage?
     
    The biggest problem that I know of when there is a long term series of vomiting is esophogas(sp?) trauma. That is hard to get the dog back in line to eating and keeping things down.
     
    I would suggest a second opinion if your vet is stumped. Please keep us posted
    • Gold Top Dog
    I would look into x-rays for a blockage or maybe a lump/tumor in the esophagus....how fast is your pup losing weight? B/c if they can't keep anything down, your dog needs emergency attention to keep from starving to death!
    • Puppy
    Miniature Schnauzers are prone to pancreatitis. I think you should get a second opinion quickly or even go to an emergency clinic. If Sadie is vomiting that often she may be dehydrated. Good luck!
    • Gold Top Dog
    You seriously need to take her to another vet ASAP.  Do not wait and try something else.... you need to go to the vet.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I sure think you need to take her to another vet also. And I do think it needs to be soon.
     
    That said, our Ollie started to get sick after her got his vaccinations and started on his heartworm pill. He started vomitting and stopped eating. It started  more then a year of problems.    So I have to ask if your dog had any shots or medications before starting to be sick like this.
    • Bronze
    Thank you so much for the advice everyone!  My mom was on a business trip today in Little Rock (we live about an hour outside of it), and she talked with a vet there who has better facilities and ideas on how to help Sadie.  She thinks that there is an obstruction somewhere that wasn't found by x-rays, so she is going to do some blood work on her tomorrow and do a certain test ( I forgot the name of it) where they can watch this fluid go through her system and see if it comes across any obstacles.  So yeah, we're definitely going to stick with this more advanced vet from now on.  So, until tomorrow evening I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  Thanks again everyone! 
    • Gold Top Dog
    Good luck and please keep us updated!
    • Bronze
    Well, this new vet has figured it out.  Apparently, the sphincter muscle between her esophagus and stomach has stopped working.  The nerves in it are dead/dying, he said.  That explains why she can't keep anything down, and when the food came back up, it didn't look like it had even made it to her stomach. And sadly, he said there is no cure.  He said it is something that can and does happen to dogs, but usually to older dogs, not one-year-olds.  It doesn't mean that she is going to fade away extremely soon, however.  She can get food through in small, soft amounts.  But there really is no telling how long she can go on eating like that.  It varies for every dog, so we may be able to keep her around for a few more years, or maybe not, but I hope it is not the latter.  Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that the problem has been solved, and to thank all of you for your ideas and concern.  I hope that this can help anyone who may come across the same problem so that they are not wrought with worry and uncertainty.  Again, thank you all.  It's nice to know that there are people out there willing to help and offer advice even if they don't know you personally.  
    • Gold Top Dog
    This sounds very much like the pyloric (sp) valve and it can be surgically corrected.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Here is a brief paper on diseases of the esophagus:
    [linkID=2579]http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&;PID=2579[/link]>http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&;PID=2579]http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&;PID=2579[/link]
    It sounds like Glenda may be right that surgery could save your puppy.  The problem is that mamy people do not have, or won't spend the money to do this.  Ask your mom if that was the difficulty, and tell her that there are some payment plans, or charitable entities that can help in emergencies like this.  The American Animal Hospital Assn. has one, and here are some others:
    [linkhttp://www.uan.com]www.uan.com[/link]
    [linkhttp://www.imom.org]www.imom.org[/link]
    [linkhttp://www.help-a-pet.org]www.help-a-pet.org[/link]
     
    The important thing, for now, is to keep the pup well hydrated.  I have the same problem with an old dog - so we add warm water to her food until it's like gravy:-))  Make the consistency loose enough so she doesn't vomit, and feed her small amounts at a time until she's finished.  You want to give each little bit enough time to pass the sphincter before you give her another spoonful.  (Yup, I spoon feed my old girl)
    • Silver
    I don't know if it's the same but I know of two dogs with Mega E (megaesophagus) who are thriving. These hounds normally don't stand a chance as they cannot keep keep anything down.
    Many are euthanized as people just don't have the time to keep them upright until their food goes down. Thanks to a special chair, the Bailey Chair,  that keeps them upright while eating and for time afterward these dogs are gaining weight. People can actually make the chair themselves.
    [linkhttp://www.geocities.com/bailey_chair/]http://www.geocities.com/bailey_chair/[/link]


    Before that it meant holding the dog upright by a person, but this chair has helped so much. Certain food also stay down better then others also. If you do a search you'll probably find a support group and diets that stay down better.

    It's so coincidental, I just saw two updates this week on dogs with Mega E who are full of energy and surviving now, since they are upright while eating. I can give you links to their photos if you wish. Maybe you could even contact their owners.

    Here's photo link:
    [linkhttp://www.geocities.com/bailey_chair/Page2]http://www.geocities.com/bailey_chair/Page2[/link]