calliecritturs
Posted : 6/9/2006 6:19:21 PM
The only thing vets CAN do for demodex is either Goodwinol ointment (which really doesn't work), or ivermectin (you can NOT do that on any herding dog -- just don't -- it can be fatal), or the old mitaban (amitraz) dips which are incredibly toxic and again they don't work well.
See demodex is immune-related. If you JUST kill the mites you don't get far. They try to give the body a 'rest' from them so the immune system will somehow magically get better -- it doesn't. I'm not a vet but I've consulted with MANY on this issue. The stuff I suggest in my article is all logical stuff (no I sell NOTHING ... this is all stuff you can get at stores locally) -- but you must boost the immune system, and build it long term, or the demodex will be back again and again.
Spay/neuter a.s.a.p. It is critical. Sexual maturation is probably THE **biggest** trigger of all -- and if you don't spay/neuter a.s.a.p. then the body just keeps working against itself. Often I hear vets say 'well let's wait until the mange is gone before we spay/neuter' and that's just dumb -- because it IS the sexual maturation that is whacking out the immune system.
If the dog has infected skin you *must* treat with antibiotics -- that's important (infected skin won't heal). But as soon as any infection is gone, then spay/neuter a.s.a.p. Yes, it is a 'stressor' but a far less critical trigger than the whole sexual maturation thing.
I know a lot of folks want to wait to spay/neuter -- and in other situations you can. But with demodex it is so critical to do it absolutely as early as possible. It gives the dog a better chance.
You can get these pups immune systems online -- truly you can. But you always have to be careful of the immune system -- these are dogs you do NOT want to vaccinate every year. Titers only once the dog has had one set of modified live parvo/distemper (never EVER give them the combo shot -- it is just plain too much for them EVER). But after one round of the modified live parvo and distemper then you can titer and only vaccinate when absolutely necessary.
In some dogs the demodex never returns - in others it does. But helping to make their immune system as good as it can possibly be, you help stack the deck in the dog's favor.
Please email me if you want that article. I can't PM you -- the article is long and I need your actual email in order to attach the document. my email is easy --
callie at critturs dot com (leave out the spaces and put in the punctuation).
this is just something I happen to have dealt with TONS. Literally I've been able to help probably 2000 dogs over the past 7 years. (yeah, THAT many). And the article I'll send you -- I'm glad for you to take it to your vet and show them. It works. It's a lot of work for you but it WILL work.