Challenge #3 -- More than just Billy's ears

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    Challenge #3 -- More than just Billy's ears

    I wanted that flat tire I had to BE part of our "three" (you know, bad things happen in threes?? *sigh*)  It wasn't.
     
    Last week my husband's Mini got broadsided (he's ok, and it WAS covered by insurance cos the lady was 100% at fault)
     
    Tree of my neighbors broke and crashed and obliterated our backyard -- mega expensive ($3600 all told) but it didn't damage the house too badly and we ARE all right!.
     
    #3.  *sigh*  It's Billy.
     
    On Saturday we found out he had that deep bacterial infection 'behind' the ear drum.  But because I've been worrying for a few weeks that *I THOT* Billy was somehow sick, my husband and I decided to go ahead and pull that senior blood panel ANYWAY.  Just because he's 6, and he feels so much better this summer than last (with all the mega skin problems -- the thyroid meds are helping), let's      at least have a 'baseline comparison'.
     
    Oh boy -- I am SO GLAD we had that blood panel pulled.
     
    No, he's not ok.  His red blood values were totally trashed -- hematacrit verylow, packcell value VERY low ... his body is producing red blood cells as fast as it can, BUT his body is also killing red blood cells as fast (or faster than) he produces them.
     
    The vet is 99.999% certain he has a diagnosis of Immune-Mediated Hemolytic Anemia. 
     
    Not good.  Now ... Billy has not 'crashed'.  We didn't find this because he's so weak that he's dying.  WE found this literally by accident.  His values are low, but not deadly. 
     
    That may come.  Yes, I am beyond devastated.  This boy is very very close to me -- he's another dog I have poured tons of blood, sweat and tears into getting him healthy.
     
    The 'good' part is that he has NOT crashed.  This is treatable at this point.  This may be *very* treatable and he may have many good years left.  Or ... he could suddenly crash next week.  WE don't know, but chances are he has a decent shot. 
     
    Why? 
     
    Typically IMHA results from over-vaccination, over-medication (antibiotics, etc.) -- NOT Billy.  (he's had virtually no vaccines at all in the 2 years he's been with us -- I'm totally anal about it.  6 months ago he had a 3 year rabie shot because it's the law here -- and he may never have another.  That's gonna be a big decision. 
     
    IMHA is also incredibly breed-related.  About 1/3 of all dogs who get IMHA are cockers.  Particularly American cockers (Billy's an English but likely a mix of the two).  But astonishingly -- it's VERY predominantly buffy coat cockers!  Yep -- That's my boy.
     
    Ultimaely it will likely be fatal -- maybe not. Because we caught it VERY INCREDIBLY early. (Can I simply say that the Alpha of all Alphas WANTED us to find this?? I can't come up with any other reason).
     
    He's virtually showing no signs and Dr. Bailey has already sent off the confiming test (Coombs test) to find out "for sure". But the list of things it *could* be beyond IMHA is pretty darned short and pretty darned impossible, at least to MY understanding right now.
     
    He's trying to get hold of my holistic vet so they can put their heads together and try and see if it is possibly some 'reaction'.  Dr. B has started Billy on pred (typical for immune-mediated anything -- slow down the immunity so it will leave the body alone).  But Dr DiNatale- my holistic vet -- she's also prescribed some herbs for Billy.  One is a glandular supplement to sort of 'decoy' the boy into chasing better things than it's own immune system.  And the other is a blood-builder (which he can certainly use because he is so very anemic).
     
    I talked to my regular vet because I know this drug he gave us on Saturday (Clavamox) is one of those biggies on the list of "don't give to dogs with immune-mediated ANYTHING".  But actually both the regular vet and the holistic vet agree it will likely be ok, particularly since the body probably needs to hit this ear infection hard and get rid of it.
     
    I'm blown away folks. Honest and truly I am. I need prayers and good thots -- this boy came to us with SO many problems, and he and I have developed a very very close bond.
     
    It is POSSIBLE (not likely, but possible) that with treatment this may just plain 'go away'. We are in SUCH early stages of it, that it's impossible to predict -- typically no one EVER catches this, THIS early.
     
    But, we have a history of helping dogs where little hope is offered.  We were able to keep Foxy's renal and [linkhttp://www.vegsource.com/animal/dogs/messages/1011974.html#]liver[/link] issues at bay and they were pretty normal right to the end (and he just plain succumbed to problems from old age). .
     
    I'm hoping for that here -- but flatly, folks I'm asking for some prayer and good thots support here. Prayers, good thots, whatever you feel comfortable with.
     
    This is not far advanced -- he's not at death's door this instant.  But, as I have felt ... he is NOT feeling well.  he's weak and he's anemic as heck.  But we know now.  Prayer & good thots, plus a whole lot of care ... that's a lot to give the best shot he can get.
     
    Flatly, this is NOT a disease I wanted to have to learn about. But I will. Because somehow, somewhere ... I know there is a reason and a purpose. I am willing (and I type that with tears ... I know only too well what 'willing' may mean here) to do whatever we gotta do here.
    Thank Heavens I have an awesome husband.
     
    But mostly, I have to say ... the Alpha of all Alpha's has a reason for this ... I need to learn new stuff for this, and somewhere maybe we can help some little girl or little boy when THEIR dog gets sick.  Let's hope ... (and think, and pray).
     
    Thanks -- I have had a lot on my plate this week.  My best friend's sister has MS and she had to go to a nursing home, and I've been on the phone hours to help my friend deal with that.  And now this today -- I'm tired.  So forgive me for not being attentive.  Holler at me e-mail if anyone needs me, ok?



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    Oh Callie - you definitely have a lot of hugs and prayers coming from here! For Billy, for you, and for your DH. If there is anything I can do to help - research, etc...I have lots of time on my hands.  You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Hugs to Billy!
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    Wow.  Callie when you first told the story of the wreck and the tree, my first thot was "what's the 3rd thing gonna be"?
     
    It goes without saying that you've got prayers, good thots and healing vibes heading your way from here.
     
    You listened to your "little voice".....and because of that, Billy has a better than good shot at living with this for many good years.
     
    And if you feel "muffled" thots coming your way over the next few days, well, that's likely cuz I'm halfway in a box while I'm thinking them, but know that they are coming.  And the prayers as well.  Oh, and hugs whenever you need them.
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    Oh Callie my friend, my heart is breaking for you. I cry along side with you. Know my thoughts and prayers are with you and Billy.
     
    You are right. There is a reason for this and I know you WILL prevail in the end.

    If you need me, let me know. I will make that long drive down to you to hold your hand or offer you a dry shoulder to cry on.
     
    (((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))
    Angel
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    Thank Heavens I have an awesome husband.

     
    And thank heavens he has an awesome wife! 
     
    And thank heavens Billy has an awesome mama!
     
    Hang in there Callie!  Its an aweful time right now, sometime we just have to go thru them. But we here are all with you!
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    Hugs and prayers speeding your way....
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    Oh, Callie.  I'm so sorry you and Billy are having to go through this.  But if anyone can help Billy beat this it is you and your terrific vets.  I'll be thinking of you.
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    Gosh Callie - when it rains it pours sometimes huh?  There's always a silver lining in there somewhere though and you being super-attentive to the ear problem led to discovering this sooner than later.  Knowing how good you are with this, I'm super optimistic that you're going to be able to get a handle on it.  My thoughts and prayers are with all of you though. 
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    Billy is so lucky to have you all as his family and to have a couple of great vets. We'll also be thinking of you and praying hard for the best outcome! 

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    Callie, what a week you've had!  Sorry you and poor Billy have to deal with this, but know that good thoughts, prayers & hugs are winging their way from CA.

    Joyce & Max
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    Callie - I missed your earlier posts about Billy's ears, the tree, and the auto accident.  But, I had a dream about you last night (odd, since I don't know what you look like!).  The only thing I remember was being in your kitchen (again, my imagination provided its appearance), and I was putting dishes away in the cupboards for you with one of my friends.  I was telling her how generous you were with your help and concern during Tonka's final weeks and how amazing you are as a dog caretaker. 
     
    Now I read this today, and my heart goes out to you, David, and Billy.  But as Sandra said, if there's anyone who can manage this diagnosis, it's you, with your terrific husband and team of vets.  And, if there's a dog who has a chance at outliving all the typical expectations, it's Billy, because he has all of you guys taking care of him.
     
    I don't have any info to share about that condition, so I'll just offer my emotional support, good thoughts and prayers, coming from way out here in Oregon.  I'll also ask Tonka to spend some extra time watching over all of you during this difficult time.  Big hugs for all of you, and a special scratch behind the ears for Billy. 
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    Thoughts and prayers from us too.  If you need any help with research or anything, I sencond (or third or fourth) the offer.  You are always there to help others - I know there are a lot of us here who will do anything we can to help you and Billy through this.  Keep positive - it helps.
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    I will be thinking of you, Callie.  I'm so sorry you have to go through this, but hopefully it will turn out okay.  You will provide the very best care and do everything humanly possible for Billy... he is in great loving hands.  Sending good thoughts for Billy and hoping he gets through this quickly and painlessly. 
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    Gosh, I am sorry to hear about your furkid. Hope everything somehow works out.
     
    Debbi
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    NOthing "for sure" yet -- my vet had already sent out the Coomb's test yesterday before he talked to me.  That 'looks for' the "leftover" red blood cells after they have been destroyed.
     
    The trick is -- it's not a reliable test.  If you get a 'postive' then it is FOR SURE it's positive and the dog has IMHA.
     
    BUT if it's negative for the disease, that doesn't mean conclusively the dog does NOT have it.  But it calls the diagnosis into doubt.
     
    Billy's Coombs test came back 'negative'-- so that means yes, we look further, but no, we don't assume he does NOT have it.  We'll treat as if he does until we figure it out for sure.
     
    Because he was diagnosed SO early, it may mean the Coomb's test is invalid.- that's still most likely
     
    So he's going back on Saturday for more small tests -- even a fecal "just in case" it is something like whipworm that snuck by the Interceptor.
     
    We'll see -- I'm NOT turning cartwheels yet because ... well, because the risk is STILL so high and most everything does point to it.  He got a tick about 6 weeks ago and it left a BAD bump for weeks (meaning the tick actually 'fed' so it's more than possible it transmitted a disease.)
     
    Given all we DO know, I'll be happily astounded if it's not.  And there's no sure way to KNOW other than time.  But we'll see.   Guarded optimism.
     
    Thanks folks - your support means SO MUCH to me.  Given the last couple of weeks -- I'm kinda maxxed.