Completely Frustrated..

ORIGINAL: terrierloverthanks guys for all your support....I swear there hasn't been a stone unturned ...Iv done it all...

If you think you've covered all the bases and left no stone unturned…what have you go to lose?  Holistic vet more run around, more money, more bs?  Learn more about finding solutions through nutrition.  [linkhttp://www.abadyfeeds.com/]http://www.abadyfeeds.com/[/link]

CC

Oh no,,,,,,,,,,not another Abady conversation!!!  LOL!! LOL!!

I feel your pain.  My bulldog fought yeast in her tail and ears for 9 years.  The only thing that helped was ketoconizole anit-fungal pills .  But as soon as she came off them the yeast came back.
 
I gave up on the raw rabbit. and the raw lamb did not help. I am back to raw turkey and chicken
 
Have your tried a teaspoon of raw apple cider vinegar in her food? It is hte miracle food.
 
Have you checked your dryer lint duct? that can cuase terrible allergies if it is clogged. and backing up into the house.

I just read your Alley Bootcamp thread.  HMMM,  if you think its anxiety related,  try a multi vitmain with all the "B" vitamins and magnesium. 
 
I bought CANINE1 off the net because one testimonial said it helped calm her dog down.   I think it has helped our rescued dog with his high anxiety at least 40%.  He is much calmer and happier, trusts my husband more,  and not as stressed in new situations.  I called the company and they told me the dogs need "B" vitamins and MAGNESIUM to process the B's.   Our dog has chronic loose stools and I am sure it is nerve related.  I haven't been able to check his stools since the CANINE1 because he goes down our hill to go in the woods.

ORIGINAL: dyan  Oh no,,,,,,,,,,not another Abady conversation!!!  LOL!! LOL!!

 
A double “lol”, I didn#%92t know the mere mention of the word ABADY had such on impact.
Well, I must confess, sometimes I “rofl” myself when I see some of the ingredients of some products, i.e., potatoes, apples, carrots, yucca, cinnamon bark, etc.  What is it that makes you laugh about Abady?
 
If Kim has left no stone unturned, (I know, just a figure of speech) but hasn#%92t tried Abady, what has she to lose?  I know, the vet bills!  Holistic vet….hmmm.  What is “holistic”?   Does that have something to due with curing the body or treating the body as a “whole”, maybe in regards to people the mind as well?  If you know anything at all about Abady, it should be nutrition is where the answers are found and breakdowns are a result of improperly structured diets.  Not all obviously, but a very high percentage of all problems are associated nutrition.   This includes breakdowns across the board, toenail to anal sac gland, the “whole” body.   The approach anyway in regards to Abady philosophy could be considered very “holistic”.  But, the holistic vet recommends herbs…I know, I know, heard it all before…but if you can#%92t recognize the fact dogs are carnivores and realize there is no place for herbs in the diet of a dog, I am afraid the prognosis does not have favorable odds…sorry to say…but I do hope the best for terrierlover#%92s dog and hope she feel better real soon.
 
CC

Right now Alley is on a homecooked Diet.... We are doing Rabbit and switching to Pork since Rabbit is so darn expensive...and Iv seen no change. We do NO VITAMINS or suppliment other than bonemeal and Omega 3 right now.
Anything new such as herbs or suppliments makes her skin go wild.
 
So what is up with this diet? Like Iv said Iv done alot.... even did Raw for 2 years like an idiot....wasn't a good choice for my dogs or Alley.
 
Okay Im going to jump on over and read this site......but IM not going to get excited...LOL

OH NO NOT ANOTHER RAW DIET SUGGEST [:'(] I do appreicate your help and concern though.... but I will never go that route again.
 
Can we just say been there done that.....
 
You should have seen one of my dogs that wasn't on a Raw diet and got into some buried bones out in the yard that I had no idea were there. He almost died. You should have seen the X-rays and the 2000.00 dollar vet bill. That cured me of that and I was sick of the diet anyway.... it was the push needed to STOP the madness of feeding my dogs Raw....

ORIGINAL: terrierlover OH NO NOT ANOTHER RAW DIET SUGGEST [:'(] I do appreicate your help and concern though.... but I will never go that route again.

 
No, not the Raw products, you want the Granular or the kibble (get the granular).  You#%92ve spent a ton of dough chasing this thing already, right?  What#%92s another $60 plus shipping in the overall scheme of things?   Start with a box of Classic Granular and give it your best shot.  If this doesn#%92t work, I#%92ll be surprised.  Important…if you do this stick with the program.  No mixing with other feeds, it can interfere with proper stool formation.  Expect diarrhea and be prepared.  You will need time off from work to be with your dog for about a week if it#%92s bad.  Remember I discussed holistic…if you have been feeding a kibble for a stretch, there is potential of plaque build-up in the lg. intestine.  This will be removed as the body begins to cleanse itself.  If you see small amounts of blood in the stool, this would be considered normal as it is cleansing.  Proper stool formation will begin soon, soft at first for a few days then soon normal (compact).  A friends dog never got diarrhea after the switch, but I say it is a strong possibility.  There are two methods, the gradual mixing with what you#%92re feeding now or cold turkey.
I gradually mixed and the diarrhea didn#%92t set in until after full assimilation to the feed.  It started to get better in a few days but it was rough at first, outside about every 3 hrs round the clock for a few days with the runs.  After that no problems, only trips to the vet for routine shots, have to go when the rabies shots are due and maybe a heartworm test once a year or every other year.
 
Charlie

If you think you've covered all the bases and left no stone unturned…what have you go to lose? Holistic vet more run around, more money, more bs? Learn more about finding solutions through nutrition.http://www.abadyfeeds.com/

How in the world is Abady going to help allergies, especially if this dog has a food allergy?

I don't understand why anyone would think that any one food would make all allergies go away.

BTW, holistic medicine is NOT BS.

ORIGINAL: jennie_c_d How in the world is Abady going to help allergies, especially if this dog has a food allergy?
I don't understand why anyone would think that any one food would make all allergies go away.

 
Good question…for starters the immune system needs to be strengthened so it has ability to resist allergy instead of suffering from allergies.   Strengthening the immune system starts with strengthening the nutrition.
 
CC  

---

 

quote:

ORIGINAL: terrierlover So what is up with this diet? Like Iv said Iv done alot.... even did Raw for 2 years like an idiot....wasn't a good choice for my dogs or Alley...Okay Im going to jump on over and read this site......but IM not going to get excited...LOL
 
Kim, I hope you didn't stop investigating because you read they also sell raw products?  Granular feed looks like oily brown sand.  They have developed the full line up in the 30-year history: raw, granular, kibble, canned, etc.  I do feel Abady has a very  "holistic" approach when it comes nutrition/health.  I don't mean to sound like I am dissing the holistic vets or holistic medicine, but I would have seriously strong reservations in regards to use of herbs to solve problems with the dog.  I would not follow the advice of a holistic vet if they attempted to steer me in this direction.  I would rather go in the direction of 30+ years of science and technology, something time-tested and a proven winner...Abady Classic granular.
 
More articles: [linkhttp://www.geocities.com/abadysingapore/article.htm]http://www.geocities.com/abadysingapore/article.htm[/link]

 I will research it but you have got to understand my Specialist that I use to take Alley to recommend accupunture on her...
[linkhttp://www.tcvmherbal.com/vetFinding1.asp?qtype=state]http://www.tcvmherbal.com/vetFinding1.asp?qtype=state[/link]
 
Also Eastern medicine far surpass Western Medicine you can't deny that.
 
I will go look at the site... but selling me on a food won't be easy cause Iv done about everything. Right now IM home cooking at its a pain in the butt. Cause I don't just cook for her I have 5 dogs that want the same. Im cooking so much for them that I don't cook anymore Period.
Long story but my husband and I eat very healthy MUCH better since I hired a company to cook for us....called success meals. Wish I could hire a company to cook for my dogs!! LOL but looks like Im the chef of the house... If I don't have a duck on.... its a Rabbit or Pork Tender loin....GOOD GRIEF.....its enough to make me crazy!!!

Charlie I looked at the site....
 
Alley can not have Lamb...chicken...or beef..... the reason for Rabbit... Duck...and Pork is cause we are choosing porteins she has not been overly exposed too.
 
I have a Scottie that has IBD......he can only have Duck Period... I manage his problem erfectly now....poor boy was so sick for so long and Iv got his POOP PERFECT NOW!!! Thanks to Slippery Elm....
 
Im still not buying into this... Im sorry and again I do appreciate your trying to help. I guess I could call the company and ask for samples to see what it looks like etc....
 
Kim

Good question…for starters the immune system needs to be strengthened so it has ability to resist allergy instead of suffering from allergies. Strengthening the immune system starts with strengthening the nutrition.

My dog has confirmed food allergies. She's on a home cooked diet with a rotation of immune boosting supplements. Still, when spring sprung, she broke out in hives. She is still allergic to the same foods she was when she was a puppy and I did an elimination diet, and I've found more foods that she's allergic to since.

Alley is MORE sensitive than Emma (I honestly didn't think it was possible). I don't think Abady would do anything to help her.

I will research it but you have got to understand my Specialist that I use to take Alley to recommend accupunture on her...
[linkhttp://www.tcvmherbal.com/vetFinding1.asp?qtype=state]http://www.tcvmherbal.com/vetFinding1.asp?qtype=state[/link]

Also Eastern medicine far surpass Western Medicine you can't deny that.

 
You really think so, eastern medicine is better…ask them where they got their degrees!  Wonder why the link with the other Abady reading has a Singapore distributor base for sales? Also, I peeked at the website about the acupuncture.  I noted something about scoring a 70 or above on the test and completing 30 required hours to get your certificate.  I certainly hope these aren#%92t the folks advising you on what to feed your dog.  Allergic to chicken, lamb and beef but rabbit and pork are ok.  I guess it is possible, but consider again your sources.  Was this confirmed through testing or “mentioned” by someone, i.e. holistic vet?  Something smells fishy and it is NOT the Abady.  Be cautious and tread carefully when heading advice that goes against basic sound feeding principles.  In my honest opinion, certain ingredients given in the form of herbs can be slowly doing more damage than good.  I think it is the wrong approach and potentially harmful.  This approach will not lead you on the road to recovery.  Good health starts with sound appropriate diets.  You should not feed a carnivore like an herbivore.  It is illogical.  Dogs need quality nutrition, not needles, so I also think acupuncture is not a great approach in the regards a feeding program for sound health, unless they want to quit smoking.
 
 

Long story but my husband and I eat very healthy MUCH better since I hired a company to cook for us.... called success meals. Wish I could hire a company to cook for my dogs!!

 
I let Abady do my cooking!  I take it your not hurting if you have I private company do the cooking for you!  Do they deliver…jeezzz my wife would sure love that arrangement!  Make no mistake, Abady from a cost standpoint is not exactly cheap depending upon your situation.  If I had the money and I were you, Abady would become the exclusive diet of all five dogs.  Do the math…it cost me roughly $20 per month to feed 45 pounds worth of dog.  As you can see, depending upon the weight of the dogs you can easily running a dog food bill of $60…$75…$150 dollars per month if one intended to feed say Abady granular.  Five Great Danes will cost you, but 5 small to medium size dogs, your probably in the neighborhood of $60-75 per month.  Figure you#%92re combined weight and use my ratio of $20-22 every 45 lbs per month.
 

I guess I could call the company and ask for samples to see what it looks like etc....

 
Granular looks like thick brown sand, should have a slight oily texture and slight fishy odor can be detected
when scooping out and feeding, however uneaten feed in the bowls dosen't smell fishy, it loses the smell in a short amount of time.
 
CC.