My itchy little girl

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    My itchy little girl

    Hi everyone, new to the board, first post.  I am so worried about my little girl.  She has been a little itchy this week, and the past 2 days it is getting worse.  First is was behind the ear, now its to her paws, then backside and now she is a little red on her belly.  I've checked for fleas.  She didn't have any this past summer, and she is not around any other dogs.  She is just as happy as can be, except for when she is itching, and sometimes crying while she does it.  I bought a medicated shampoo, but I am afraid to use it and make it worse.  I am calling the vet on Monday, does anyone has any ideas on what this might be and how I might be able to make her feel better before I can get her to the vet??  By the way, she is a 3 year old beagle/pug mix. 
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    if it is fleas...the solution is simple but if it is a seasonal allegy then a little more complicated..if no fleas, and it were my patient I would check for ring worms and others but assume it to be an allergy and int=itially I would put the pup on low doses of steroids to at least control the itching to maybe let nature heal the problem of therapeutic shampoos to control any external causes...Everyone  says no steroids but with the proper low dose it can be controlled pretty well but let your vet decide--I think your is past the point wherre antihistamines will help,but again up to your vet
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      Welcome to idog Danica; The shampoo should help; what brand is it? There is a conditioner you may be able to find at Petco or PetsMart called OxyMed which is very good for relieving itching too. Have you tried antihistamines; here's a link with types that are safe for dogs and dosage by weight;  [linkhttp://www.utskinvet.org/pdf/antihists.pdf]http://www.utskinvet.org/pdf/antihists.pdf[/link].  My vet likes Benedryl so that's a good one to start with. Fleas spend most of thier time off the dog so if you aren't using a topical like Frontline or Advantage your dog could have fleas even if you don't see them. She may have allergies and this is a bad time of year for them; I've had to bathe Jessie once a week lately to relieve the itching from her allergies. Here's a link to check the pollen count in your area; it also tells which types of pollens are showing up in the counts for most areas of the country;  [linkhttp://www.aaaai.org/nab/index.cfm?p=pollen]http://www.aaaai.org/nab/index.cfm?p=pollen[/link] .
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    The shampoo I got is Sulfodene medicated shampoo and conditioner for dogs, it says it stops itching and flaking and has aloe in it.  I smells kinda like T-gel shampoo.  I got it at walmart.  I live in a rural area, so I don't have much of a choice where I get get pet supplies.  She was laying down and sleeping, but she is up and crying again.  Do you think I should shampoo her??  I think I might run to town and get some allergy medication.  She is 20 pounds, any recomendations on what do try first?
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      I would try Benedryl first; Walmart's version would be cheaper; poor girl. [:o]  dvet's right though; she's probably in too much discomfort for antihistamines to help, although they won't hurt either.  He is a retired vet so he knows what he's talking about. Is your vet in on Saturday mornings; if so maybe you could take her tomorrow, it sounds like she is pretty uncomfortable. If she has "hotspots"; oozy red sores from scratching, some Gold Bond medicated powder would help. I don't think the shampoo would make her worse.
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    I wouldn't use Sulphodene - that's pretty harsh stuff and you can do better with other things.  I've seen that actually worsen skin to be honest.
     
    The benedryl will at least *help* the itching a bit and if it doesn't that's going to tell the vet something.
     
    Try 1 (1-2 is a typical dose) mg/lb body weight -- it's not a big dose but should help.  The over the counter Benedryl caps are 25 mg so even if she's a bit under 25 pounds that's still a safe dose.  The liquid "elixer" is 12.5 mg per teaspoon -- so you have to give a lot of it to approach the 1 mg/lb dose.  (and you DO have to give at least 1 mg/lb for it to be at all effective -- dogs have a much faster metabolism than we do so they need more than we would).
     
    Other things to consider:
     
    1.  You say you are in a rural area so likely you may have wildlife around?  rabbits, coon, fox, deer, etc??  That might mean she has gotten into sarcoptic mange mites -- I'd consider this especially if the itching is pretty much non-stop.  You can't see them, and a vet won't find them on a scrape -- but if you suspect them treat for them.  It's not difficult -- but the difficult time is figuring out where she got into them.  But just rooting around sniffing under trees, etc. where animals have been hanging out -- and any mites that jumped off the wild critter will look for another host that is warm-blooded.  Wildlife sarcops don't typically 'breed' on dog skin (dog sarcops would but they tend to be pretty species specific in their choice of host) so getting rid of them can be easier than keep them OUT of the source.
     
    Another question for you is are YOU itching anywhere?  A small red uncomfortable rash -- maybe you even thot you were scratching in sympathy?  That would be another hint of sarcops. 
     
    2.  What you're describing could be a lot of things -- but think carefully if anything has changed in your yard -- any new foliage/trees/fertilizer -- any change at all??  Dog DO tend to grow INTO allergies -- where human kids tend to grow out of them, dogs tend to grow INTO them and they worsen with age.  But typically you'll see paw-licking *first* with dogs.
     
    3.  Has anything else changed lately?  Have you started using a new fabric softener?  Done any changes in the house?  Turned on your heat? 
     
    Things that may help:
     
    A.  Keep a container of plain old black tea in your fridge -- take a bit out (like a small margerine bowl full) and microwave it just to 'body temperature' when you are ready to bring her in after a walk.  Dip each paw in it (swish it around) and pat dry with a terry towel (not paper if you can help it).    Helps with the paw licking a bunch.
     
    B.  Bathe at least once a week in a mild shampoo -- no conditioners (you don't want anything to help the fur 'trap' pollens, etc.) -- but do a final rinse in a couple of gallons of water with about 50 drops of tea tree oil in it -- that helps keep the staph infection down.
     
    C.  Chammomile tea (the kind you can get at the grocery store is fine) -- you can use it topically (like particularly on the red belly -- it will help calm that down.  It also is a good calmative and helps with the inflammation internally -- it's not strong but it's VERY gentle to the tummy and should help calm things down.
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    if it is fleas, this is what we used as we had a bout with them about a month ago. DeFlea Dog Shampoo.  It kills fleas on contact and also kills and eggs and/or larvae on the dog.  It's really mild and can be used weekly until the fleas are gone.  We use Frontline ;Plus EVERY month, but she brought them in from outside.  This shampoo leaves their coat so soft and it's really soothing to their itchy skin.   
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    Hi all.  I didn't bath her in that medicated shampoo.  I didn' t make it to walmart today to see what they had.  I've kept her inside the last two 2 days, she's been going potty on pee pads, she is still itching, but it isn't as bad.  I'm thinking allergys.
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    Check in her paws, if you look really really closely inbetween her claws there
    may be tiny orange mites. With you living in the country your dog may have got
    them from running through fields etc

    Worth looking [:D]