im so scared

    • Gold Top Dog

    im so scared

    charley wen to the vet about his ears...........bad news  they gave him alot of stuff to try or they will have to give him a really pricey surgey.......im so scared is there anything you guys can think of to maybe help
    • Gold Top Dog
    Whats wrong with Charley's ears?  Did I miss something?
    • Gold Top Dog
    he has a terriable ear infection  he has had it for about 4 years and we have been treating it it wont go away  could it be his diet or soemthing
    • Gold Top Dog
    What surgery are they talking about trying?
    • Gold Top Dog
    taking out his ear canel
    • Gold Top Dog
    Are you talking about the ear ablation?  I believe they basically close the ear up because there's been so much damage to bone and tissue in the ear canal.  Callie talks (warns) about this all the time.  I'm pretty sure one of her dogs had to have it done.  You should try send her a private message and see what she says.  Good luck to you and try to stay positive the the medications will work to do the trick.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Callie's Muffin had that done in both of his ears. It helped him tremendously. You might PM her.
    • Gold Top Dog
    well the surgey will be over 5000 dollars and we really cant afford it  but  we'll see  but  the vet said they would take out the ear canels because they are so damaged
    • Gold Top Dog
    I'm so sorry about your baby. I hope that you can find some sort of remedy that works without having to do the surgery.
    Healthy thoughts coming your way.
    • Puppy
    Sorry to hear that Charley needs ear surgery.   I found a couple of good links for you to read they explain everything.  Is their a Vet teaching hospital near you? If so they may ask for a lessor fee for surgery.  I subscribe to "Your Dog" Newsletter and received the March edition today. It has a large article on ear canal surgeries but I don't see a website for them so you could check it out. 
    Good luck and keep us updated.

    [linkhttp://www.vetsurgerycentral.com/ear_ablation.htm]http://www.vetsurgerycentral.com/ear_ablation.htm[/link]
    [linkhttp://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_total_ear_canal_ablation.html]http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_total_ear_canal_ablation.html[/link]
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    Is their a Vet teaching hospital near you? If so they may ask for a lessor fee for surgery.


    That is definitely something to look into, even if you have to drive a ways.
    • Gold Top Dog
    so the antibotics  are working  pretty well  he seems to be feeling better  and hes alot more up and happier maybe god is working in magical ways im so glad
    • Gold Top Dog
    Puppyluver PLEASE PLEASE email me.  Many times when ear infections go on and on like this they are allergy related.  Allergies in the ears make the ear canals sore and inflamed -- easy prey for both bacteria and yeast.
     
    If your vet is saying $5000 for ear ablations that is TOO MUCH.  Now they are not cheap surgeries, and the trick is they have to be done by a really good surgeon -- but just because someone charges an arm and a leg doesn't make them good.
     
    DO check out your state's best vet school -- it can be a super good option for surgery like this.
     
    Most vets will NOT do both at once -- it's too much of a shock to the dog's system and this is mega major surgery.  They don't 'close up' the ear canal really.  They REMOVE it.
     
    Essentially they literally remove the entire ear mechanism -- the inner ear, middle ear and outer ear.  Those are held by a 'cup' of cartilage called the bulla -- the vet literally removes that entire thing -- then they bathe the whole area with a ton of antibiotics and then they sew the head shut.  When you lift the dog's ear flap they look like a stuffed toy -- there is no hole at all. 
     
    We did have to have this done on Muffin the Intrepid.  We rescued him and he had horrific ear infections -- he also had demodectic mange (an immune-deficiency thing that causes a horrible skin problem).  Try as I might I couldn't get him well -- and it was because the inner ear infection was always there deep inside where you couldn't get to it.  The vet just kept treating for yeast infections and in fact it was bacterial.
     
    I know I can help you --I can tell you the things we did that worked and those that I wish had been done earlier.  Sometimes you can get one ear good enough so you can postpone half the surgery for a good while.  I repeat -- you do NOT want to do this on both sides at the same time if it can be avoided.
     
    But there are things that you can do diet-wise to help.  One of the common causes of the bacterial infection in ears can be e coli.  And it is tough to kill.  BUT you can switch them to a totally grain free diet -- and that will help enormously.  E coli live on grain.  they can't live without it -- so just plain taking the dog off kibble and feeding a diet of meat and veggies can sometimes help turn the tide a great deal.
     
    But if the ear is swelled shut and has been inflamed for a long long time, the ear ablation is what will save the dog's life.  Yes, it totally deafens them.  But honestly a dog that has had infection in its ears for four years probably has very little hearing left anyway.  And the pain they are in -- trust me, you don't even realize how much pain this dog lives with.
     
    I cried over this for almost a YEAR before we had to have Muffin's done.  And I do mean I CRIED.  To me, having to remove his ears for an infection?  I mean gee ... like if I have an infected hang nail are you going to cut off my hand??? 
     
    But once we had it done and I realized the full extent of how impossible it was for the ear TO recover (if the ear canal has turned to bone then you can't really get rid of the infection any other way).  You may be able to buy some time, but the ear ablation will likely be what has to be done.
     
    I understand ... trust me -- when the vet first told me this I was FURIOUS.  I was so angry that such a thing even needed to be done.  And afford it?  Trust me ... we were about dead broke at that time. 
     
    But I found after the first ear was done he was SO much better.  When the second ear finally swelled shut (and man, that happened just about this time of year -- the allergies flared up and bang -- that ear slammed shut almost over night) about a year later, we went ahead with the second surgery without qualm.  And man, he was like a PUPPY again!! 
     
    Muffin learned sign language.  Just like they use in the deaf section in your church maybe??  He ultimately learned over 50 signs -- and he lip read like you wouldn't believe.  Dogs that were at one time hearing and then lose their hearing become much more proficient at learning sign than dogs born deaf -- because they KNOW what words are.  They KNOW what commands are.  And they are looking for you to explain stuff to them.
     
    I'm glad to help you.  Truly I am.  Please don't give up and don't be scared.  I understand all you are going thru -- and Iunderstand how scarey the expense is.  But I also can promise you that different vets will charge you totally different amounts to do this surgery and a vet school would be one of THE best places to do it.  If you can email me and tell me whereabouts you live, I can help you figure out where to go.
     
    Callie
    • Gold Top Dog
    I have heard that removing poultry products from their diet can clear it up.  A lady I knew with rotties prone to ear infections had no problems once she did this.