Owner caused injuries vs groomer caused injuries

I haven't Jennie.  But, I can only imagine because I get so nervous just trying to get the occasional mat from her mane.  I have to be so careful that she doesn't shake her head or move or something. 
 
PS----I'll never understand why people get long furred dogs and then shave them.  There are so many short coated breeds.

I once saw a maltese that hadn't been groomed in about 5 months, the owners took a human electric mustauche shaver to it. I swear it looked like the dog had gotten into a fight with the lawnmower! There were chop and hash marks here and there. It looked like it had been taken down with (what would be the equivalent to) a #5 blade in some places, and a #40 in others.
 
I know what you're talking about, Lori. I don't like to shave down goldens, labs, chows, and shelties for the summer- but the customers want it every year. they seem to think that it makes them cooler in the Texas heat and won't listen when I try to tell them that it actually insulates their coat. [8|]
 
Daisy is "shaved" (leaves about 1/2 an inch) for medical reasons- her allergies. Durring the winter-time I tried to let her grow out (to maybe 3 inches, she was by no means in "show coat!) and she was miserable. She itches all the time anyway- (we're working on finding a solution- she's getting a whole lot better now that the heat isn't on all the time) and when she had long hair she'd matt up really bad because of her spit when she was chewing herself. I'd comb her out at night, and by the next morning she'd be matted again. And the moisture from her licking sitting on her skin didn't help much either.
 

hello, I just thought I'd share a quick story with ya. I got a dog that came into my shop the other sooo matted. She was a mixed breed. Alittle lap dog. But these people leave her out always. It took me about three hours to complete her. The poor thing was so good. Not a peep out of her. This had to be the worst case I've seen. I actually questioned sending her home. But, I took my time and she was awesome. She ofcourse was'nt the prettiest thing when done but she was clean and no more matts. And she looked like a total different dog. Her owner was so surprised to pick her up and see how great she looked. Not a nick,burn,or bruise on her. I honestly was kinda surprised myself. LOL     I told the owner I would discount her next two clippings if she would book the appointments right now. I now know that dog shouldnt have to suffer anymore if I keep her coming back.

Emma is also shaved for her allergies. Even if they magically disappeared, I'd probably still shave her. I LOVE the way she looks and feels, and I love her Poodle tail. She's so cute. I also paint her nails and dress her, so......

It took me about three hours to complete her.

The first time Willow was groomed she took almost four hours.  She was so bad, she was shaved in some areas and some of her skin was injured from a choke chain that she was tied out on.  But, the original owners couldn't tell because of all the fur, they never paid any attention to her.  She had so much dandruff if looked like someone covered her in oatmeal! [&:]  But, I still refused to completely shave her. 

This is what she looked like after her very first groom ever, look how small she looked.  She was two in this picture though!

Orr Willow that pic is sooo cute!!!!
 
We took our family pet a Spinger named Lucky (RIP[sm=angel.gif]) to a proffesional groomer she came back full of little cuts and they had shaved her so close you could se her pink skin underneath, they cut off all her curls on her ears she looked a mess. We never took her back again.
 
I am scared to take Simba in case the same happens to him, his coat is just growing in nice and long, but he does need tidying up dont want a bald Chow!!!!! 

Before I got Dakota, I would let the groomers fluff and puff my cats.  Then the last time, they shaved part of my long-haired cat.  She had a few mats, but to be butchered the way she was was unreal.  I couldn't help but laugh at the sight of her:  poofy tail, thick ruff, and a shaved back and stomach.  She honestly looked like a black and white lion.  My short-haired cat didn't seem right mentally.   She acted very nervous when anyone would get around her.  Her lower back seemed to be hurting.  So after that last visit, I decided I would do all the et grooming myself.  I figure that I can't do any worse than what the groomer was doing.
 
For an Eskie, all I have to do is bathe and dry him.  You should never shave an Eskie!!!  The only part you're supposed to trim is the hair on the back of the hocks. 
 
I know all my animals would rather I bathe, dry, fluff, and puff them than someone else.  I have all the bathing equipment, the grooming table, and the pet dryer.  Yes, I've trimmed a few nails too far, but then I stopped the bleeding with the Quik Stop gel.  It's worth it to me to do my animals' own grooming.    

I don't understand, groomers can just shave a dog or a cat without asking the owner?? 
 
I'd commit a crime if someone shaved any part of her without explaining it to me first!

Groomers generally don't shave a dog without asking, and most ordinarily prefer not to do that, especially to the coated dogs with undercoat, since it seldom ever looks the same afterward.
Often, however, there is miscommunication between the owner of a severely matted dog and a well intentioned groomer...
We always told owners how much pain is associated with the dematting process, and let them make the decision.  In severe cases, we would rather shave than put the dog through hell.  Most owners opt to shave, especially when they find out that the brushout is charged by the hour.

Well, I did tell the groomers that if they needed to, they could shave the MATS.  Maybe she thought I said "cats."  They had shaved the mats out before.  (Jasmine is a strictly indoor cat, but she never learned to groom herself since she was left for dead as a kitten.)  At the groomers, apparently what happened is Jasmine wound up with a few shaved areas on her belly.  By the way, they were in a big rush that day (a Friday).  Then one of the groomers decided to "even out" the gaps.  The next thing she knew, she shaved down all Jasmine's belly, sides, and back so that things would "look even."  Jasmine didn't have any mats on her sides and back!!!  I think someone was experimenting with the grooming tools!!  Whatever!!!  Now I use a rotating comb and undercoat brush so Jasmine rarely has a mat form.
 
I have some pictures somewhere of the butchering!!!  Jasmine's tail and ruff were still so poofy, but her mid-section was so "gone!"  I couldn't help but laugh and laugh and laugh.  Ariel hissed at her for days because she didn't recognize her.

That's called a lion cut, and it's an extremely common request. Cats and pomeranians get it frequently. I've never met a Low Chen, but that's their breed standard cut.I've seen Pekingese and other breeds in a lion cut, as well.

I've never shaved a dog without permission. That's bad business.

My grandparents have had Standard Poodles since before I was born. They don't get them clipped in the showy Continental, but just a simple puppy cut with a bit of a top knot  and a poofy tail. Their favorite groomer that groomed three of their dogs over the years (they only had one at time) recently retired.

The first time their current poodle was groomed by their new groomer she came home looking pretty, but... She looked like she had a little razor burn on her feet, though not too bad. After a few minutes of running around on the carpet she was leaving tracks of blood everywhere. The groomer nicked all between her toes and looking closer, most of her face was burnt too. We had to wrap her feet, they were so tender.

That was the last time to that breeder. I know it wasn't the dogs problem, as she was 5 years old at the time and is such a good girl getting groomed. They have since found a groomer that does a lovely job, and they are very happy with her.