Stomach Issues

    • Gold Top Dog

    Stomach Issues

    Hi. It's been a long time since I've posted but I need some help/advice with my beagle Rory. She's 6 now. Not sure whether this is a health or a nutrition question, but here goes. In the past she been has bloody stool a couple times. Once as a puppy, once a few years ago And this past August. Each time the vet has pretty much chalked it up to she got something that upset her stomach. In August she was also throwing up and panting. They did blood which was fine. She was fine after that. In the past year or so she's started to get runny eyes and chewing her paws. She's always hated kibble and spits it out, so I always add a topper. Well I decided to start homecooking for her. I contacted Monica Segal and we started a new food protocol. At this point she's only having ground turkey, rice, a tiny piece of beef liver and a couple calcium supplements. We haven't gotten to the rest of the supplements yet. But last Monday and today she's had big bloody messes again. Mostly soft stool and bloody mucus. I'm taking her to the vet again tonight but I just don't know where to go from here. She hasn't gotten into anything. Should I put her back on kibble? Monica wanted to keep her on turkey because she does tend to have a soft stomach and we tried sweet potatoes but they gave her gas. I can tell she doesn't feel good and her eyes are still runny and her nose is a little runny. I'm so overwhelmed and scared. I thought real food would make her better. Any ideas on what could be causing the blood?  i would normally make her turkey and rice for an upset stomac but she's already on it so I'm not sure what to even feed her.

    sorry to write a book!

    jennifer

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    • Gold Top Dog

    Hi so sorry to hear about your pup. My Rottie had a serious stomach issue and had blood in the stool, the vet told me it was just from the irritation from going so much. Thankfully she was ok, she go into some nasty stuff out in the woods and it messed up her system. Your case seems different. Sometimes the best thing is just feed them very simple cut out everything except the rice and meat. But I would consult my vet again even maybe take her to another vet for another opinion. Sometimes a second opinion can save a life. Good luck and keep us posted.

    • Gold Top Dog

    It sounds like they've only run some blood tests thus far, correct?  It may be that some additional diagnostic tests or procedures need to be done to get a better look at the intestinal tract, although those types of things are expensive.  And you said they ruled out any parasites or anything that would have shown in a stool sample?  

    I don't have first hand experience with something like this, so I don't have any helpful info to offer.  But I'm sending out good vibes for Rory.  Keep us posted!

    • Gold Top Dog

     I'm sorry that Rory is having stomach problems; bloody stool is very  worrisome. I agree with tacran that further diagnostics may help, such as an ultrasound to see if there is something in the intestines causing this. Monica has formulated a few diets for Jessie and she is great to work with and always has your dog's best interest at heart. She had a dog with IBD, and has also worked with client's vets so she's familiar with gastrointestinal problems. I'm sure she will agree with whatever type of diet your vet recommends until Dory's better.  The watery eyes and paw licking are caused by allergies and it may be food or environmental. I will be sending your sweet girl healing thoughts; please let us know how the vet visit goes.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Sorry I didn't respond right away.  It's been a crazy few weeks.  The vet had said bacterial gastroenteritis had been going around, so he gave her antibiotics, saying he would rather start small and work big.  This was a different vet in the same office that we had seen before.  So she took her meds and she was fine, her energy perked back up.  But then tonight she had another around of blood.  I'll take her back to the vet but I don't understand.  She's only eating turkey and rice with some basic supplements being added in.  I'm beyond overwhelmed.  She's acting fine, eating fine, drinking fine.  They hadn't run a test for parasites, but wouldn't the antibiotics have killed that?  

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    • Gold Top Dog

    Hi maybe cut out the supplements and just keep the diet super simple, less is best. The supplements could be the issue. But please talk to the vet. Good luck.

    • Gold Top Dog

       You should ask your vet about testing for parasites; I don't believe antibiotics kill them; at least not all types. That may be what's causing her problem.

     Could she have an ulcer? One of the symptoms is blood in the stool. Ulcers are hard to diagnose; they usually aren't visible in an ultrasound unless they're large.  Sometimes the blood work will indicate anemia if they have an ulcer, but not always. You could ask the vet about trying Prilosec; it would take several days to be effective but if she has an ulcer it would help.

     I seriously doubt that the few supplements you're adding are causing the blood; I've worked with Monica and she is very experienced with IBD dogs and others with gastrointestinal problems and the supplements she's having you add should be safe. Have you e-mailed her about the bloody stool?  She will also work with your vet if you want her to.

     I really hope you find the cause very soon; sending healing thoughts.

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    This may not solve your doggy's problem,  but try using enzymes and probiotics to help with   colon health.   Total-Zymes and Total-Biotics are really good ones that I use on Slim.  

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    This is MY experience only (I'm not a vet, and I don't play one on TV Wink ). I had a dog whose symptoms were very similar to this and he had IBD. The only thing that helped was a Rx dog food with hydrolyzed proteins (essentially proteins that have been broken down into smaller molecules). It took a couple of years, thousands of dollars, changing vets, and an endoscopy (with the vet taking biopsies of his stomach and duodenum) to get a diagnosis. Unfortunately, he was a large dog and I'm widowed with not a lot of money. I could not afford the special dog food and medications. I had to put him down. Broken Heart