advice on giving ear medication

    • Gold Top Dog

    advice on giving ear medication

     Zoey got a foxtail in her ear this weekend and I got it removed on Monday. The vet said it was pretty deep in there. We tried holding her still at the vets and it didn't work, they had to sedate her to get it out safely.

     Now i have to give her medication in that ear. I've gotten it in there twice so far. But OMG does she fight!

    My BF had to be the 'bad guy' and hold her down this morning and I still barely got it in there. For being 27lbs she's ALL muscle!

    So I need suggestions, i don't like holding her down, I know for her that ear must still be tender and she doesn't like the whole idea to begin with

    So i need some super sneaky tricks, and trying to give it when she sleeps is almost impossible cuz it seems like she never sleeps! LMAO

    I feel like I'm gonna have make a doggy squeeze chute! There were 3 of us holding her at the vets and she still managed to squirm enough and fight us to were we had to stop & sedate her.

     

    HALP!

    wish I could clicker train this,but it needs to get done. but maybe if I worked on a few times a day maybe it would make it easier.

    thanks

    • Gold Top Dog

    Strong little bugger, isn't she!

    I have always been advised not to double team.  It could lead to distrust.

    Someone once advised spreading peanut butter on a wall or cabinet and while the dog is enjoying the taste, sneak in the medicine.  Honestly, that didn't work with Heidi.

    What I end up doing is taking the dog in a room where they can't escape (bathroom).  Keep myself calm, calm, calm.  Absolutely no anxiety that could travel to them.  Feed something exceptionally yummy like drippy roast beef.  Tell them what I'm about to do, then just be quick.  Then follow up with more exceptionally yummy food.  Its not an easy task...I know.

    Good luck!

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    In honesty this is a TRAINING thing -- waiting until you have to give meds while the dog is hurting is ALWAYS going to be tough.  If you gang up on her she's going to be scared and she WILL fight.

    Sit down on the floor with her.  Call her over and pet her and just TALK to her.  Have **high value  treats** come on -- don't be stingey -- she's scared and this hurts, so break out the best you've got.

    As you pet her, give her a couple of treats and then just let her GO.  DO NOT TRY to attack her the instant she sits with you or you'll make her distrust you.

    After a few minutes call her back over while you are on the floor AGAIN.  Show her the bottle.  Tell her it's gotta go IN her ear, but ... later.  Treat her and let her go AGAIN.

    Next time have her sit .... just LOOK in her ear.  TREAT.  Let her go AGAIN.

    Next time.  have her sit -- still on the floor WITH her.  Treat.  Talk to her.  Show her the bottle and treat again ... and still talk to her.  Tell her you will try to keep this easy but to just relax.  You are helping.  (at my house we use that word "helping" a LOT -- any time they get meds, any time there is a scarey vet visit.  Any time they have to allow you to do something scarey -- acknowledge what they're going thru.

    Pull her back against you ... and give her more treats.  croon to her.  Be PATIENT.  Don't let your own muscles contract and get tense.  Tell her how awesome she's being and that you're trying to be gentle.  Show her the bottle but again tell her you've just got to put a little in there and to hang on you're **trying** to keep this easy but that medicine is gonna help.  If you have another human walk up with something awesome in their hands but NOT TOUCH HER.

    Even if you have to put some of the goo on your finger.  That applicator can hurt -- when done cuddle her and tell her she's wonderful and that was scarey but you'll try to make it worth her while.

    Jumping the dog and pinning them down only makes the next 100 times impossible.  this is a training thing. 

    And ... hereafter??  Play with her ears.  Play with her feet.  Play with her mouth.  TEACH HER to take pills and medicine.

    My dogs ALL know how to take yogurt off a spoon.  They ALL know how to take baby food off a spoon.  why?  Because then when they gotta take meds IN it -- it's easy.  You show them the med and say "this is in your yogurt -- just swallow.  THEN it tastes good".

    Reward heavily.  But in between applications of the ear goop DO NOT just ignore her.  Sit on the floor and call her to you JUST for cuddles.  You don't want her to fear your embrace -- but you DO want her to know that sometimes you ARE gonna hang onto her.

    Make sense?

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    CoBuHe

    Strong little bugger, isn't she!

    I have always been advised not to double team.  It could lead to distrust.

    Someone once advised spreading peanut butter on a wall or cabinet and while the dog is enjoying the taste, sneak in the medicine.  Honestly, that didn't work with Heidi.

    What I end up doing is taking the dog in a room where they can't escape (bathroom).  Keep myself calm, calm, calm.  Absolutely no anxiety that could travel to them.  Feed something exceptionally yummy like drippy roast beef.  Tell them what I'm about to do, then just be quick.  Then follow up with more exceptionally yummy food.  Its not an easy task...I know.

    Good luck!

    See -- Barb's saying much the same thing -- if you tag team them you're screwed.  Then they think they MUST distrust you.  REWARD IT BIGTIME.  and yeah -- a little peanut butter on the cupboard just beyond your elbow isn't a bad thing.  but don't mess up your bond.  And compensate her -- she deserves it.

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    calliecritturs

    CoBuHe

    Strong little bugger, isn't she!

    I have always been advised not to double team.  It could lead to distrust.

    Someone once advised spreading peanut butter on a wall or cabinet and while the dog is enjoying the taste, sneak in the medicine.  Honestly, that didn't work with Heidi.

    What I end up doing is taking the dog in a room where they can't escape (bathroom).  Keep myself calm, calm, calm.  Absolutely no anxiety that could travel to them.  Feed something exceptionally yummy like drippy roast beef.  Tell them what I'm about to do, then just be quick.  Then follow up with more exceptionally yummy food.  Its not an easy task...I know.

    Good luck!

    See -- Barb's saying much the same thing -- if you tag team them you're screwed.  Then they think they MUST distrust you.  REWARD IT BIGTIME.  and yeah -- a little peanut butter on the cupboard just beyond your elbow isn't a bad thing.  but don't mess up your bond.  And compensate her -- she deserves it.

    Yup, i don't want to do it like that!! I don't want her to have issues. Afterwards I got her to sniff the bottle, treat. sniff again, treat. I've been working with her feet too, and I'm always sticking my fingers in her mouth as if I was brushing them with the brush that slides on your finger. SO I didn't prepare for the EAR thing! ACK I will try getting her to let me it least look at the ear more today, I do play with her ears alot, lots of rubbing. but I don't blame her, this one is tender.
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    Do you have a baby medicine syringe with no needle? IMO that was the best thing I ever discovered for giving ear meds. I can pull just enough out (so I'm not afraid of squeezing the tube during the mele) and drop it in there quick. I only use it once and then I chuck it, don't want to contaminate the original container.

    Let me know if you want a few, I have about 100 baskillion (no, not really, probably 3 or 4 LOL) and I'll drop 'em in the mailbox. Your vet might just give them to you, if you ask.

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    OH GENIUS! so it doesn't matter if I get that tip all the way in the ear then? cuz the end of syringe ( w/o) needle is whole lot stubbier - i.e. can't be put very far into her ear. I worked some with her at lunch, actually got to where I can hold the applicator next to her ear without her walking away ( I was not restraining her, seems like as soon as I make it so she can't walk away she has a meltdown) I actually managed to get ONE drop in her ear while she was sleeping at the office, I was very ninja like
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    Hmm, I use tiny ones that are made for 1cc - they are thinner than a pen, not fat like the ones I think you're thinking of. I think getting the medicine NEAR her ear is probably better than none at all, but that's just my opinion :)
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    Oh ok, I think I might have one of those left over from Cricket the kitty. I hope so! I agree too. I got lucky with that one drop!~