HELP The guilt is killing me after Brownie passed away :(

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    HELP The guilt is killing me after Brownie passed away :(

    as some of you have read in my last post my brownie passed away  and I am going through a very hard tiem with the grieving process.
     
    first I felt guilty because I felt like we murdered him by putting him to sleep, knowing that he still had the will to live. :(
    he even tried wagging his tail when we put him in the car to take him to the vet the day he was put to sleep. he had even continued to eat even though he was not  deficating.
     
    anyway I could not handle being there when he was put to sleep, because I unfortunately couldnt handle that, aside from not being there with him when he was put to sleep, I feel guilty about cremating him as I wanted to find a pet cemetary and there werent any in the area, so our only option was to get him cremated. I feel as the appropriate way was to get him buried.
     
    I opted not to  get the ashes, as you really never know if they are your dogs ashes. now I feel guilty as maybe I shouldve taken the ashes. also  I wish I couldve been with him until the end and having him buried as at least I would have seen how they handled his body instead of just getting him cremated, I keep thinking what if they just threw his body like it was nothing, anyway  it might sound crazy but the guilt is killing me, I feel that I left my baby alone in this process and it makes me feel horrible inside, I was always there for him when he was alive and I just wish I could have doen everything differently, because  II feel as if I abandoned him at his last moment and that is killing me as well as the grief.
    • Gold Top Dog

    (((hugs)))

    I see a few dogs a week for euthanasia. Some owners do the responsible thing, and do it before the pet begins to suffer. Then, I see the others... where the pet is in a huge amount of pain, and it's obviously that this had occurred for some time.... - and I honestly cannot help but wonder WHY they waited so long. Why they would do that to their pet. In short - I think you did the MOST responsible, and selfless thing, for Brownie - by NOT allowing him to suffer. you should never feel guilty about doing something for someone/thing that you love so much.

    I could explain a bit more about how the actual euthanasia process works, if you want to know - just send me a PM (I'm a certified euth tech) but do know that it is painless for the pet.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Could not agree more with what Erica says. 

    erica1989
    you did the MOST responsible, and selfless thing, for Brownie - by NOT allowing him to suffer

    This is so very important for you to remember.  Please try to look at this in a different light.  This is the hardest thing we, as dog lovers and owners have to do, because they simply do not have the life span that we do.  So, it sux, and its hard for us, not them.   Animals, IMO, don't look at death the same way a lot of us do.  Please don't feel badly.  It was Brownie's time, remember the dog fondly.  He doesn't care now what happened to the body...he's off an running at the bridge.  So, let it go.  Let it all go, and if you are a spriitual person, I would say give it to God...because Browinie wouldn't want you stressing over his death; which I believe is merely a transition.  He's energy now, likely watching over you and sending you lots of lovin from above. 

    I'm sending you lots of healing and positive vibes....be well.  {{{squeeze}}}

    • Gold Top Dog

    vanmel
    first I felt guilty because I felt like we murdered him by putting him to sleep, knowing that he still had the will to live. :(

    Don't even say that -- it is absolutely NOT that.  It is simply trying to help them avoid pain.  Brownie was far far more worried about YOU than he was himself.  He was doing all he did to please you ... this is where WE have to be the humans and *know more* than the dog.  We have to be able to see past the blind obedience and love DEEPER to their pain.  And knowing that we love them *enough* to release them from that pain.

    vanmel
    anyway I could not handle being there when he was put to sleep, because I unfortunately couldnt handle that, aside from not being there with him when he was put to sleep

    I told you on the phone -- and I seriously believe this - that it was better that you were not there.  Because when an owner tries to 'be there' for the dog BUT the owner is completely disraught -- that simply scares the dog. 

    In a very real sense it is kinder NOT to be there rather than burden them wtih your own over-whelming grief.

    Dogs respond in a big way to OUR emotions.  And when they feel that WE are all unglued -- it frightens THEM, it makes them desperate to cling to us to be there FOR US. 

    Support is only *support* if the person giving that support can remain calm and helpful ... but if that person is, themselves, out of control -- that ceases to be "support" and becomes "selfish".  Your *not* being there was honestly a good thing.  You shielded Brownie from your huge grief.

    vanmel
    I feel guilty about cremating him as I wanted to find a pet cemetary and there werent any in the area, so our only option was to get him cremated. I feel as the appropriate way was to get him buried.

    Again, Vanessa - you did what you could.  Pet cemetaries are unreliable as well -- I've seen them come up missing totally eventually.  In this day and age we can't bury them "at home" like in former days.  City code just doesn't allow it.

    And if you weren't certain and sure that the crematorium your vet uses is reliable then opting to not get his ashes was likely wise. 

    Find a bit of his hair (he's a dog -- surely you can find some shed hair??) -- and I can get you the names of some companies who will make a lovely piece of jewelry for you with that tiny bit of his coat for you to keep ... and keep close TO you.  A very dear friend of mine just lost a pug she was extremely attached to -- and she had a lovely piece of jewelry made in Shiloh's honor.  It's a lovely way to honor them, and it's a good un-blemished memory.

    Don't allow yourself to go over and over and over things that you really had NO control over.  It's not like you knew in advance you needed to 'find' a good crematorium.  There are just times in this life when we need to make a snap decision.  Then you can't beat yourself up over what was simply the best decision you could make at the time.

    vanmel
    I keep thinking what if they just threw his body like it was nothing, anyway 

     

    That absolutely DID NOT happen.  First off, vets offices are pretty tightly controlled and they just aren't allowed to treat remains that way.  Most vets are VERY caring -- I can promise you that the folks on here who have worked in vets offices and who are vet techs themselves will chime in and say that most vets offices are extremely careful about such remains.  I know my own vet suddenly switched crematoriums about 2 years ago because the vet himself was simply not happy with how things were handled at the crematorium. 

    As a little itme passes here, you and your husband need to look back on the vet care that Brownie received -- both at your "old" vet and this last vet you used ... and plan for the future.  You may never use either one of them again. 

    After what you told me on the phone -- I probably wouldn't use the second one again either -- but take some time and learn from what you are unhappy about with Brownie's care ... and look forward to the future. 

    It's as I told you on the phone -- I will always wish I had done things differently with Prissy ... she was MY first, and I was devastated that day.  I know I was far far too shattered at the end and I made her passing far more difficult than it should have been.  I'm not proud of that -- BUT neither am I going to castigate myself ... because that doesn't help Prissy at all.    It doesn't help her memory.  And SHE would have been quite put out with me over it. 

    So instead -- I just tried to LEARN.  To make up my mind that **next time** would be different. 

    And it WAS. 

    vanmel
      it might sound crazy but the guilt is killing me, I feel that I left my baby alone in this process and it makes me feel horrible inside, I was always there for him when he was alive and I just wish I could have doen everything differently, because  II feel as if I abandoned him at his last moment and that is killing me as well as the grief.

    Vanessa, you honestl have to let go of this and realize that you did the best you could at that time.  You aren't superwoman -- you *knew* (and your husband knew) that you were far too grief-stricken to handle going to the vet.  That was a wise decision.  As I said above -- had you gone, you would truly ONLY have burdened Brownie more -- you can't support someone if you are so grief-stricken yourself. 

    We can never go back and "re-do" the past.  It's like the old adage "don't cry over spilt milk".  It's already on the floor -- so you clean it up and resolve to do it differently NEXT TIME.

    If people on here have heard me once they've heard me hundreds of times saying "I learned from my old Prissy ...." or "I made THAT mistake with Prissy and won't do that again".

    Wisdom is learning from a bad situation.  We can't prevent bad things from happening.  But we CAN go back over our actions and decide to learn from it and not make the mistake again the next time.

    This was the first dog you've ever lost -- there are no "instructions" anyone gives us on how to "grieve" before we have to go thru it the first time. WE all have to learn.  All of us on here HAVE had to learn -- some of us have had a tough time with it. 

    I grieved for my Prissy far far far too hard for almost seven years.  I had other dogs .. but pretty well went thru the motions.  I had an enormous amount of guilt because our finances were horrible dire at the time and I couldn't even afford gas money to get Prissy to the vet TO euthanize her.

    Guilt is destructive -- and I'm not saying all this because I'm perfect and don't ever feel "guilt".  Rather, I've done it myself -- so I can see the traps you're falling into enough to try and help you defuse them. 

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Love for another creature (human or not) means doing what is best for that creature.  Brownie wagged his tail because he loved you and you showed your love by letting him go before he suffered any more.

    If not already in pain, Brownie would have been very soon because he was eating and not defecating.  He was also sick and bleeding to death.  His time had come and you could not change that. 

    You did not murder him or abandon him; you let him go as peacefully as you could.  Not actually being in the room hurt you, not him, and he knows that you made that sacrifice for him so he wouldn't be afraid.

    After death the body is just a useless shell.  Anything else done with the body would have been for you - not for Brownie. 

    You can honor Brownie with your memories.  Try to remember the love and the good times.  That is what Brownie is remembering while he waits from you at the Bridge. 

    He knows that the actions that you took were taken out of love!!  He doesn't blame you for anything so there is no need to blame yourself. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Vanmel, just wondering how you've been doing these past few days.