Admin can one of you PLEASE speak with Anne?

    • Gold Top Dog

    Admin can one of you PLEASE speak with Anne?

    This was her post pre edit....emphasis mine. This sort of thing is just plain snarky and unnecessary! I wish she would stop! I have PM'd her about her tone and word choices before...to no avail...

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    Sensationalism??? Oh, please, get a grip.  Ian Dunbar is probably the least sensational guy ever.  Mild mannered, quiet, and not into doggy psychobabble.  He can certainly stand alone on his demeanor and his credentials.  BTW, it is very difficult to convert CM fans - after all, most people don't want to give up their "religion".  At this point, I almost think you would need a de-programmer to pry some of his fans away from the cult long enough to actually get them to learn anything new and different about dog behavior other than that which he spouts.  They're always too busy defending their god, and not busy enough reading or observing anyone else.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Composing a PM to her now...again... 

    • Gold Top Dog

    OK, I sent her this:

    Anne,

    One of your posts was heavily edited yesterday because of this: "after all, most people don't want to give up their "religion".  At this point, I almost think you would need a de-programmer to pry some of his fans away from the cult long enough to actually get them to learn anything new and different about dog behavior other than that which he spouts.  They're always too busy defending their god, and not busy enough reading or observing anyone else."

    This kind of thing really needs to stop.  I don't think there are any regular members here who are unaware of your dislike of CM, but none of them would get away with saying the above about a positive trainer.  The fact is, there are many people here who would not even be participating in training discussions were it NOT for CM, who has brought the issue of training a dog to the forefront for a significant amount of the dog-owning population.  Given that, is this really the best way to change their minds?  I think not.  If you disagree with something he has said or done, or someone advocating same in a thread, explain why you disagree, and how you might do things differently.  You might change their minds, though history here says you probably won't, but either way, it isn't your "job" to change them.  We are all here to share what we think, what we do, and that is ALL we can do here - people are going to do what they think is right even if they are wrong.  If they are wrong, insulting them isn't going to make them see that, all it will do is make them dig their heels in.  We're not here to disparage the beliefs of others and indeed I wonder, since you equate support of CM with religion, how you would take it if someone here were to say the above regarding your own spiritual beliefs.

    Regardless, further behaviour of this type will force me to discuss the status of your account with the other Admins.

    Kate