Bologna sandwiches are disgusting

Lani shot a "snot" rocket on the forum.... bad girl! lol

 Really -- it was just water (ok. MOSTLY just water :P)

Good grief.  I said I don't care about her political views.... I said it like i'd say it... "I don't care." it doesn't matter... she could believe aliens are coming and kool aid is her only option (gosh, I wish she did....) and it doesn't matter. I posted MY opinion. Talk about spinning everything, yet we are spinning HER words. I want to slap her.

 I sent Jenns a PM:

"I don't wish to derail the topic any more than it is, but i have a bone to pick with you.  This has nothing to do with me being a moderator.... this has to do with my opinion.  Which I'm allowed to state at any point.

It looked to me you were looking for a fight from the moment you walked into the thread, if someone posted something you'd essentially say why it was wrong.  That's fine, that's your opinion.  So, I stated MY opinion and somehow it became many things to you... it became me spinning YOUR words, taking your words out of context, I apparently became "funny" and then of course "snotty".  Look, if you want to play in the world of online forums sometimes people aren't going to agree with you and it seems that we see you more often than not in the threads where you don't agree with the majority, again that's fine.  But, you have to remember, the "responsibility" thing you posted about, where if you go skiing, you can't blame anyone else for breaking your own leg.  Well, when you post against others in a devil's advocate way you can't blame everyone else for not agreeing with you.

I think I went above and beyond trying to come across and "bridge" our gap, I said I agreed with you I said your political opinion didn't matter (even though I didn't know your, think or care about your political opinion...) and yet you have persistently come after me.  Don't go crying "police brutality" (essentially the same thing on an online forum as saying "the mod is being mean to me...";) after you pick a fight.  

Sera_J

 Really -- it was just water (ok. MOSTLY just water :P)

 Not according to Jen and Dyan. Insert head shake and eye roll.

As soon as I saw your comment, I *knew* it was going to get whiners because "I don't care" means "it doesn't count" to a lot of these people.  Man, I think I might have liked to have grown up so sheltered and secured from the world that my feelings are more important than anyone else's rights, opinions, or abilities.

 Jen and Dyan can get a life.  I love Dawn and Jackie.

 "POLICE BRUTALITY!!!!"  

Idiots. I mean really -- if you are a big enough idiot to debate yourself into a corner.... you either need to disappear or yell "Look over there!" while you pull hair and pinch, apparently. Those are the options. She took the latter.

And why does everyone think she's going to get herself into trouble by going after a mod, other than the fact I may have triple the brain cells she has?  I'm not going to ban her because she disagrees.... I may rub her nose in her caca and swat her with a newspaper, though :)

Oddly I still don't feel the intense dislike for her that I feel for, say Bonita.  I just feel very ambivalent, she is obviously not very clever.

Am I crazy, or did she actually say in the thread that she has feelings, and isn't just a screen name?  Really, ya don't say?  You have FEELINGS?!?!  Never woulda guessed it.  All your posts are so rational and logical and impartial.  Man, shocker!

Has she responded to you yet?

 No, you are confused.... SHE is crazy ;)  She also, after all of her arguing has said the reason she is pro-choice is because people will have abortions anyway, so they should be able to do them safely.  How is THAT for irony.

And no. No response, I honestly doubt I'll get one. I was way too direct, and she lacks an audience to play to.  

 Well she made a liar out of me:

"You are more than welcome to state your opinion at any point but why be offensive about it? It wasnt a general topic opinion, it was a personal dismissal of me. I had not been implying that you should give any care to my political beliefs. I had meant that you assumed I was in favor of the government being in control of the decisions over womans bodies based upon my conservative-like comments, not any direct statement I had made stating that I was in favor of gov't legislation on the issue, because I never did. That's all I meant. As far as starting a fight, that was never my goal. In a discussion, people state opinions, points, thoughts whatever and then the other side offers counterpoints against what they just said to make them think about in a different way. And for every comment I made, I felt that they were completely shut down and not given any consideration, which is fine, but if you and Gina and whoever else can say why my thoughts are wrong, then why can't I say yours are wrong? I don't care if you guys dont agree with me, I don't agree with you, the point of the discussion was not to make everyone agree. No, I do not post very often. When I do post a dog related question or statement, I am usually ignored because I am not part of the "popular" crowd on the board, but nonetheless, i read the forum everyday because I enjoy the insight I have gained. Every now and then I will read something that makes me want to post, so I do. It does not mean I am a forum troll or looking to cause trouble. Honestly, you jumped all over me the minute i started saying anything and I was really shocked because i hadnt said anything that offensive. Take responsibility? WOW! Now theres a threatening message. But whatever. It really doesn't matter. I don't feel bad about any of the points or comments I have made."

Her reply to me, after waiting all day.  I fired back a PM immediately:

"THIS is exactly what I'm talking about:

jenn52:

Take responsibility? WOW! Now theres a threatening message.

 How is this:  "But, you have to remember, the "responsibility" thing you posted about, where if you go skiing, you can't blame anyone else for breaking your own leg.  Well, when you post against others in a devil's advocate way you can't blame everyone else for not agreeing with you."  threatening in the slightest!? Where do I say something that is threatening?  Show it to me. Please.

I could have said your incessant sarcasm was "snotty" (the way you kept saying "funny....";) but, I didn't... I debated your points, NOT how you posted, but apparently I don't "get" how you post (and vice versa) because the things I'm saying and the things you are replying with share only that they are written in English.

I'm blunt, to the point and call it like I see it.  If I wanted to be "snotty" there would have been no missing it or room for interpretation.  I said I didn't care about your political views simply because I don't.  It had NOTHING to do with my opinion on abortion. Period.  My take on not wanting the Government allowed to make medical decisions for us was MY opinion and meant for the board in general.  You managed to make it personal. 

Why even bother to escalate this?  I don't think you're coming out any better because of these PMs.  You look sort of bullying by her point of view.  (Shoot the messenger, it's ok, I'm just suggesting you hold the trigger finger a bit longer.)

She really is operating under the premise of "I'm the odd man out" - since when has anyone cared about the "popular crowd" thing?  That is so last year (or the year before that).  People ignore stuff they don't agree with if they don't want to hurt the poster's feelings or tell them they're stupid.  Or if they have no idea what the person meant, but can't be bothered to ask for clarification because they suspect it's stupid anyway.  She's been here long enough to have earned a place in some alleged "popular crowd" - ANY of them!  There are a ton of cliques on this board.  If she hasn't found one to fit into, that's because she doesn't want to.  Fine.  Admirable, even, by some standards.  But don't complain about it.

Heya, 

You are probably right, she sees me as a bully -- I just don't like that she is allowed to say whatever she wants, and very aggressively, and yet I'm the bad guy.  She's ALWAYS been very combatant when she's posted.  I find the irony thick that she's saying, quite aggressively might I add, "Why don't we live in the ideal world... why must we cater to these people who make bad choices?" and yet her sole reason for being pro-choice is "because people will have abortions anyway.... they should at least be safe." 

I am not going to shoot the messanger, you are probably right and I'm usually a fairly rational human being.  But, she really, really pissed me off. If she wants to be a big girl and debate in big girl threads then she should be able to take it, cause she sure as hell can dish it out.

I see nothing admirable about her. 

So, I got a PM from a member that Kim went and put a deposit on a Vizsla puppy...... WHAT THE HELLLO????????????

 ... I'm not surprised.  She said in my photo thread that she was trying to decide between a weim and vizsla. I then noticed someone from KY went to my website.  I was praying that she wouldn't ask me for a puppy or help finding one, because I'd have to have told her, "NO WAY."

 Seriously, who in their right mind would sell her a puppy?  Or did she go to a BYB/PM?

Hey, anyone able to clear off the remaining IDs pending approval? I just cleared out 2 pages, but I have to go.  I was with my family all weekend, sorry.

 Yes I'll do it... I got busy this weekend and COMPLETELY FORGOT!!!! I don't know where my mind went!! Please don't apologize!! There are 3 of us after all!!

 I look forward to the day when we don't have to do that anymore.

miranadobe

Hey, anyone able to clear off the remaining IDs pending approval?

 Done. Thanks for the reminder.