Training/Behavior discussion

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    Training/Behavior discussion

     Hey --

     I was thinking that since Anne kind of monopolizes Behavior and often Training, and when she posts she kind of sprays all over it giving rules of what can and cannot be discussed.

     What if we offered a weekly Behavior/Training disucssion.  One of us posts the discussion and by one of us posting it, it may invite more discussion.  We could swap weeks (between us) where, while we don't necessarily need to participate we supervise it.  At the end of the week, the next topic gets posted, by a different mod.   I'm thinking to keep it from getting out of hand that discussion is then locked (at the end of the week) with a "If you would like to continue please start a follow up topic OR see this weeks Behavior/Training discussion."  We can have people PM us with ideas for discussion.  Maybe we chart a months discussion out so we can just rotate through them?

     What do you think?  Suggestions? Nothing is written in stone, but I do like the idea of a neutral party doing the post so more people feel the opportunity to participate.  We would of course need to post the rules prior to starting this saying "we have one week to discuss this before we move on..." that way Anne can't obsess to the nth degree.... or at least obsess LESS.  Hopefully. lol

     Let's see if we can come up with an idea to make this work, I think it could maybe, at least work towards, uprooting Anne out of behavior... or giving the alternantive to her threads.

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    Sera_J
    uprooting Anne out of behavior... or giving the alternantive to her threads.

     I don't think she'll ever be uprooted from behavior.  She is fanatical and is on a mission to spread The Word.  Why else does she battle so often and initiate conversations on her topics of choice?  PS, she has her own forum now called POS-idogs.... um, idogs is a little close to home, just saying.... be aware.

    As for training/behavior discussions... I don't feel like an authority on either.  I believe Anne sees herself as one, as backed up by her certifications in dog training (from an on-line school, here's the course, where "Dog Training for Dummies" is the textbook, literally:  http://www.cengage.edu.au/animal-care-courses/pet-obedience-trainer), Pet Care Technician - also an at-home, self-paced, open-book exam certification:  http://www.petcareservices.org/index.cfm/lev1/921/Educationgrooming from a 100-hr course that teaches (direct quote from their site:) "Basic Skills:  bathing, drying, brushing, equipment usage and maintenance, clipper patterns, etc.."  http://www.nysdg.com/courses.html, & CPR (from the Red Cross), and Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Salem State College, which I have no intention of analyzing - it can stand alone.

    The thing that bothers me (and I think you guys, too?  Maybe I'm assuming) is a lot of this is old discussions, sometimes new players.  The new players is the only thing that makes bringing up an old topic worth it.  So, I want to find a way to engage new players - even if it's those who call my arguments childish. lol  Will initiating our own threads do that, if the same players continue dominating and bickering every thread (regardless of who starts it)?  I mean, look at Liesje - she tries to start new threads and they get eaten up, too.  So, I'm going to marinate my brain on what could induce someone new to want to participate in discussions, and what would keep them there.  I think us initiating NEUTRAL subjects is one very good way to start, but I can't be held to a schedule - can any of us right now?  Let's see how we can "chart" this out/brainstorm before we initiate it... that should be a good indicator of how much time/attention we could give the threads, eh?

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     I agree it'll be tough, but maybe with active Moderator input will keep her in check?  I really dont' know.  ((sigh)) There will always be SOMEONE who is a PITA.  ALWAYS. 

    Paige, keep stewing on it, and I will too.  And Karen, if you see this... we'd love your input, too :)

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     why do I not get notification of ALL Mod Den posts?? argh

    sorry didn't see this and I have to agree with Paige I don't really have the schedule to schedule creating appropriate posts.  Both of you are much more experienced and knowledgeable with regard to training and I know it is still difficult for you so I would have to put more time than I have into creating threads.

    Mine would start; so you have this bloody-minded, hyperactive, oversized beast...................

    Just kidding.  i have been trying to wade in and slap anyone who is crossing lines, as in jumping on espencer when he joined the aggressive dogs post. I would love to see the back of Ann and him.  we might actually have a decent discussion in Training and Behavior

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    kpwlee
    I would love to see the back of Ann and him.  we might actually have a decent discussion in Training and Behavior

     Anne thinks she's the behavior expert, espence sees himself as her antithesis.  In the Tarot, he would be the Fool and karmic scapegoat.  It was much better when we had Mick here, because he gave sound, balanced advice and she shut her face when he took the time to tell her she was wrong.  Nobody who is a really, really good balanced trainer has the time to *** around and battle her back without stomping all over her.  Kim, who has pretty limited experience, but a sound, informed, reasonable, patient way of explaining herself is about the only one we have.  She earns far more respect from the general group here than Anne, Anne just collects up all those she bullied into believing her "side".

    Meanwhile, I just deleted a SPAM thread from Anne - she posted the same dogwelfarecampaign site again, under a new thread.  In my message telling her it was deleted, I referenced the other thread and told her we'd gotten complaints about the spam.  She never, ever PM's me.... so I'll be curious if she decides to pick up a stick and try to battle me.

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    miranadobe
    She never, ever PM's me.... so I'll be curious if she decides to pick up a stick and try to battle me.

      OK, I feel like I've been hacked.  This is the second time that I post something like this in the den and suddenly something that opposes it shows up.  Anne PM'd me this week.  See ARs.
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