Can someone who is not invested...

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    Can someone who is not invested...

     Give a once-over to the "I don't understand why" thread?  I thought it was a productive discussion on behaviour and training, but Anne's pulling the "this is just a beat-Anne-down thread, woe is me" card.  I can't believe she didn't expect that, when she started the thread, and "oh I was just venting" wouldn't be a good enough excuse if it was someone SHE disagreed with that had started the thread, but...I just might not be impartial regarding that thread anymore since I was participating heavily in it.

    Grazie.  

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    I don't see anyone taking it up...they seem to have moved along...now if you like I can post a reminder on it as to "dog piling not allowed, but realize when you post something on a public forum not all will agree" message if you like?

    It actually seems pretty tame for behavior...but I dunno...we'll see what others think. Smile

    BTW snownose is still among us I guess until the next blow up? LOL.

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     Oh good lord...check it now LOL.  It does need something but if I go in there and do it I'll get stomped on for using my position to crack down on people who don't agree with me, or some other such ridiculousness. 

    It was Anne herself who made that thread about her.  Everyone else was discussing the abstract ideas of making mistakes in training, what defines corrections, how to prevent problems from occurring etc.  Now apparently "everyone else is allowed to vent, not her" because she vented about some issues that people decided to discuss.  *shakes head*

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    I have posted a warning...I will be going thru to remove the comments I think should go...which means Anne, Ron, Snownose, Dogma, and some others will likely be edited...that okay with you? Have input on what should stay or go?

    Anne's politics comment and resultant fluff will be going since it's all OT far as I am concerned.

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     I trust your judgement as to what stays and goes...as I say, I am invested.  Just give me a shout when you've filed AR's on the relevant posts and I'll read them, so I know what you took out.  And yes, all that stuff is OT. 

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    AR's are being put up right now..

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     you posted while I was typing - I pm'd Dogma to relax and let it go

    Who would like to go to a party with Snownose - she always seems to happy and cheerful to me Sad

    I'm in the middle of some workmen coming and going but will check back in when I can

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     Thank you both.  I am hitting the red button on snownose as we speak, let the games begin...

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    Thoughts on Ron's "everyone hates Anne" post? I am tempted to edit it as it's technically off topic and not about dog behavior...more like a "Our Community issue"

     

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    mollymoo:

    This may be off topic too but why can everyone else on the forum rant about their JOB, their neighbor, people at the dog park, I could go on for ever so etc. Oh ya right they aren`t dog trainers.  BUT just because she is a dog trainer and this is a dog forum all is let loose on her. She can`t rant about her job as everyone else here on the forum just because of what she does. How sad.

    spiritdogs -  I for one love to read your posts and your replies to help people and I have learned a lot from you. Thanks

     

     

    Because it's political and I don't mean the national partisan polemics in the general election. It's not even an anti-dog trainer thing, it's an anti-Anne thing. Plus, a number of people are ready to take offense at whatever you have to say. I could say that I like sunny days and someone will come along and accuse me of describing those who like cloudy days as being off-kilter, not as smart, whatever. That's pretty much what happened here. SD described some things and people here who happened to like cloudy days or used a piece of equipment she described assumed she was ranting about them, which she was not. Which of course, always allows someone to doubt her abilities, wisdom, experience, creds, in spite of the fact that she's been dealing with dogs longer than some people here have been alive (sorry, SD). And, then the veracity of SD's statements get lost in the crapfest that ensues. Because it's not about right or wrong, truth, or knowledge, it's about personalities.

    People used to doubt Ann's creds all the time. So, she started sigging them and it hasn't stopped the slings and arrows. Because, evidently, it's not about knowledge, it's about cult of personality."

     

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     Remove it, it's off topic.  If you feel like it, PM him and say that those types of issues should be raised in Our Community, but public floggings are verboten and even with the best of intentions opening up a can of worms might not get the response he wants.

    This forum is not anti-Anne but if one denies it....oops, look, denying it proves everything!

    OK I'm whiney today, I need a drink.

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    I have posted the below at the end of the thread...

    Moderator reminder...

    We have an "Our Community" area where things such as member relations, posting tone, etc can be discussed in a general sense. As always public commentary on individual members posting styles, is always a risk to indulge in...but if people have problems they can post in the aforementioned section and try to have a RESPECTFUL...insult and snide commentary free tete a tete about it.

    Further discussion about the above in any form...will be considered OT on this thread.

    Thanks.

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     Perfect, thank you.

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    I am CROSS EYED now from editing LOL...I am sure I probably missed some thing and there were some that I was not sure of...mollymoo's post for ex that Ron quoted. So if someone else can go thru and re check I would be grateful but for now I am tired..LOL.

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    Haha ok, you're allowed.  Go eat some chocolate, or fry something on your griddle LOL.  (Green with envy but my DH will throttle me if I buy any more kitchen gadgets.)

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     holy poop Gina you are the woman!!!!

    Have you considered a career as a teacher? LOL - red pen reference