20 People, Gunshot End Pit Bull Attack

a little bit OT, but the guy who had the stroke is not the little dogs owners- i guess just some passer-by..b/c it list the names of the dogs owners.  just pointing that out.  So seems like the little dog was left out byitself tied up.  its always easy to point fingers when we werent there though.  sad situation all around.

That is a very sad situation for both dogs. I still can't help but feel sick to my stomach/ sad as they described on the video what they did to the pitbull to try to get him off the little dog. Not saying it wasn't necessary, just seemed a little brutal.

I hope that pup that got hurt heals up well. I hope they find the owners of the dog (if there are any) that was running around freely, and punish them.

AthenaBear

My first question though is, why was the dog on a leash on the porch at night?

My first question:  What was the pit bull doing roaming around where he could get to the dog that was on his porch?

To answer your question, it's very likely that the owner was on the porch enjoying the evening.  There's no laws against having your dog in a controlled environment, on a leash.
 

Actually, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if you read the article carefully, it say that the dog's owners, the Thomspons, "heard Cook screaming and CAME OUT TO HELP."  Which means, by my interpretation, that they had LEFT THEIR DOG TIED UP OUTSIDE UNATTENDED.

This doesn't change the fact that NO DOG, regardless of breed, should be roaming the streets alone, but the story presents a muddled picture.  I, too, at first, thought the dog was on the porch with the owners, but if you read carefully, it was not.

In Texas, it IS illegal to tether your dog outside at night.

This is why counties and towns get scared and ban specific breeds. A couple of weeks back there was a law trying to be passed on the east coast that would require owners of suppsoed vicious breeds to pay a yearly due to own such breeds.

As a pit bull owner I WISH they would enforce a fee or SOMETHING to help weed out the bad owners. Wouldnt that be great if a pit bull was walking down thE street and the AC pulled over to check its tags? I know it sounds invasive but its much less a hindrance then having these poor pit bulls neglected and running the streets giving us all a bad name. Its extremely tiring to have my dogs looked down upon. If the dog owner has never paid the fine he should be required to or have his dog taken away. No criminal or dog abuser would bother paying that fine.......unfortunatly bad guys would just move onto another breed but heck what otehr solution is there?

badrap

In Texas, it IS illegal to tether your dog outside at night.

 I think there are some counties that have a no tether past a certain amount of hours, but it is not all as I know several hunters in Texas that tether their dogs.

Although I may be thinking of a law specific to Dallas, I was able to find THIS on the Fort Worth Muncipal Codes website:

ARTICLE II. RESTRAINT OF ANIMALS

BlackLabbie

Honestly, I don't think why the dog was on a porch at night is the real question, but, why wasn't the pit bull confined- either by fence or leash or indoors??? This type of dog, obviously aggressive, cannot be let out in the public alone ever. This drives me crazy....an obviously irresponsible PB owner, and now an innnocent dog and owner are paying for it. When you own a powerful breed of dog you need to control it! What if this dog, was a child???

You are certainly correct that the Pit should have been contained, and the Yorkie should not have been leashed to a porch alone.  The Pit could just as easily have been a thief or a coyote.  As to the question of what if this was a child...well, with Pits, most of the time nothing at all would have happened.  They are dog aggressive many times, but Pits are not generally aggressive toward humans.  I find that in lots of cases where they are, it's usually because they were interfered with during an attack on an animal, and redirected on the human.  Or, there are other circumstances that cause them to make a mistake.  But the breed standard states that aggression to humans is a serious fault.

badrap

Actually, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if you read the article carefully, it say that the dog's owners, the Thomspons, "heard Cook screaming and CAME OUT TO HELP."  Which means, by my interpretation, that they had LEFT THEIR DOG TIED UP OUTSIDE UNATTENDED.

You are exactly right, my interpretation of events was wrong.  

This is a case of two wrongs causing a horrible event. 

I think you're all nuts.  Clearly the little dog did nothing wrong being on his own property on his own porch.  Whether or not a Red-Tailed Hawk could come down and pick the dog up is besides the point.  An aggressive dog (I don't care what breed it is) entered onto property it clearly did not belong and attacked another dog.  If it was my little dog, was there and had my shotgun, I would have sent that dog to Pit Bull Heaven sooooo fast it would make your head spin, without a second thought.  Sorry, that's just the way it goes in the real world people. 

CC.

The breed standard.....!? I don't give a damn what the breed standard for pit bulls is....I don't care what the breed standard for ANY aggressive dog is. I just know that an unsafe, aggressive dog should never ever ever be left unattended in the public.

I think they only people truely responsible for this is the people who let the pit out of their sight.

BlackLabbie

The breed standard.....!? I don't give a damn what the breed standard for pit bulls is....I don't care what the breed standard for ANY aggressive dog is. I just know that an unsafe, aggressive dog should never ever ever be left unattended in the public.

I think they only people truely responsible for this is the people who let the pit out of their sight.

Aggression towards dogs is different than aggression towards people. So a dog may be an "aggressive dog" in the context of interactions with other dogs, but not an aggressive dog when it comes to humans. You cannot predict aggression towards humans based on aggression towards dogs.

After you heard or saw what that dog had done to the other dog, would you allow it near your kids? or family? or even yourself? I certainly wouldn't. I think dogs who are extremely dog aggressive have the potential to turn that on people. This dog was obviously extremely dog aggressive if it took that many people to get it off the other dog...and a gunshot to end the whole ordeal.

100% incorrect Balck Labbie but I see where your going with this and understand. YES a unstable dog which was the case in this situation is a threat to humans and dogs alike. I am assuming this dog was unstable versus out right aggressive because of his obvious lack of care, training and socialization. So what we are dealing with here is inherant traits versus unstable aggression.

His inherant dog aggression which is obviously bred into pit bulls was evidently let out. However if he had been a stable dog with proper training it is extremely likely that a dog can possess prey drive for animals and not humans. Thats just like saying a bird hunting retireiver will attack any animal because it has a attack drive in it....you know as well as I that it rubbish.

For what you obviously don't know is that old day fighting dogs were nothing like what you know today as a pit bull. They were not allowed to enter the ring unless they could be 100% called of by the handeler. Can you imagine the risk of a human trying to pull apart to seething pit bulls? Not likely and a man biter in those days were automatically culled so as not to pass on bad genes. Now you can see how after decades of watered down breeding that terrible traits were bred into these dogs with a clear disregard to proper temperments. They are now bred to be big huge dogs when in reality a real fighting pit bull would hardly weigh over 50lbs.

So long story short, no I wouldnt trust a unstable dog around my kids. I would however trust a hunting pit bull with strict training around my children, I do and I have. 

 Black Labbie I know pit bulls are not your favorite breed but it is in your best interest to educate yourself on the subject if you choose to take such a firm stance against them. Otherwise you make no sense and can be continued to be proven wrong

BlackLabbie

After you heard or saw what that dog had done to the other dog, would you allow it near your kids? or family? or even yourself? I certainly wouldn't. I think dogs who are extremely dog aggressive have the potential to turn that on people. This dog was obviously extremely dog aggressive if it took that many people to get it off the other dog...and a gunshot to end the whole ordeal.

Yes, I'd allow such a dog near my kid if it seemed stable and showed no signs of human aggression.  I owned a dog who attacked my other dog. He WAS family. He was not a pit, and in my opinion was also a potential danger to people. We still worked with him as long as possible.

As far as dogs that have only displayed dog aggression, I would be comfortable being around that dog. I'd prefer not town such a dog because it isn't easy, but I have no automatic fear of dogs who aggress on other dogs.

Sticking with an attack is related to the trait of "gameness," something bred for in bully breeds. This does make for a very dangerous dog, when the dog is human aggressive. But notice - people were hitting that dog upside and downside and the attacking pit never bit any of the people. I'd say that was a dog who wasn't displaying much human aggression.