GSD Scheduled to Die for Defense of Family Member

    • Gold Top Dog
    Dog_ma:

    dyan:

    The big thing to me is that the guy was warned to not get out of the car....and he did. He is wrong and he is stupid. That alone should save the dog.

     

     

     

     Legally, you can be held responsible if someone trespasses and your dog bites.

    Is it not worse if you have a "BEWARE of the dog" sign?  Anything that might suggest that you know, before the incident, that the dog is unsafe?  Might the bloke telling the guys to stay in the car constitute that?  I'm not defending the judge's decision, I vehemently disagree with it.  But I am scratching my head and wondering... how on EARTH did a normal, sane, sober person come up with that judgement...??

    I underdstand what you are saying..and I understand that if you have a beware of sign on your dog...that it might mean that you know your dog is vicious. However...we are talking about a person standing there warning someone at the moment.   So yes...that not only might but does mean that you know that the dog might bite and therefore that is why you are warning him not to get out of the car. What more do you have to do?????? Would you go into a cage with a lion at the zoo?  If you do...your stupid and you should get bit.

    • Bronze
    I have posted responses to this on two GSD forums that I am on. I have also emailed and called the governor who was to have had a press conference tonight. I was raised with poodles and my son chose a GSD when we got a dog when he was young so take this statement in the light it was meant. If this were a poodle the thread would not exist and it never would have gotten this far. Dog behavior is dog behavior no matter the breed. Our poodles were just as capable of defending as my GSD's. Congo did what he needed to do to protect his person. Any other extraneous details are unimportant in the dog;s mind.
    • Gold Top Dog
    • Gold Top Dog

    I see the dog got to come home during the appeal.  Is the appeal still going on? 

    • Gold Top Dog

     I caught the last half of this on the news last night.  He is always to be on leash and under his families control.  And the appeal is still going on, but nothing has changed for him as of yet.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm going back there to write to them again....they must not think that people forgot!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Any idea how long this appeal will last?

    • Gold Top Dog

    I don't care what breed the dog is. Anything with fur and fangs can bite. If you come into my property and refuse to follow my instructions and have a problem with my dog before I can secure him, you're asking for trouble and I may just fire you on the spot.

    But, oh lordy, if you get out and hit my dog and knock my wife to the ground, don't worry about the dog bite. Worry about me. This dog could have done much worse and, imo, showed some bite inhibition. But I won't. You trespassed, bad enough. You attacked my family. That's your last mistake.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm suprised that there hasn't been the other side of the story told.  Here are some pieces about the story gathered from another e-mail list.

    1.) this is only one side of the story
    2.) the landscaper was severely injured with multiple deep bites
    3.) normally when workers are told to be someplace, especially
    landscapers because they could not finish work due to weather, they
    usually get there as early as possible.
    3.) the owners are wealthy and well-connected and we are only hearing
    their side of the story which is all about the poor picked on dog- a
    family pet.

    This was an allegedly obedience trained dog who led a
    pack in an attack. The hooey in the press about poor Congo protecting
    his owner is part of a carefully orchestrated pr campaign that came
    out after the dog was ordered put down. The investigating animal
    control officer did not find any evidence that the dog was protecting
    his owner and if he had bee, continuing to bite when told not to,
    when the victim is curled in a fetal position on the ground is not
    just protection- it's aggression.

    The testimony was quite different when it was under oath but as often
    happens the dog is now a victim rather than the man who was injured
    so badly he may not be able to work again.
     

    Wow. Yes there do seem to be multiple versions of the story,
    originating from both sides. but there are quite a few important facts
    that people choose to ignore even tho they've been published in almost
    every article. Like the fact that the landscaping company is owned by
    Mr. James' BROTHER, and they were asked to be there early to complete
    work that wasn't finished the day before due to the weather. That the
    landscapers walked into the yard WITH Mrs. James, and she was unable
    to control the dogs. That the puppies were 6 months old at the time
    of the incident and not little baby puppies that most people assume.
    Sorry, 2 adult shepherds and their 4 6 month old puppies mauling a
    person, that's a vicious pack.

    In addition, because none of the dog's had been vaccinated the
    victim had to spend days in the hospital after surgery and then had
    to undergo a series of rabies shots.

    The owner was offered a plea to a lesser charge which would not have
    declared the dog vicious under the municpality's dangerous/vicious
    dog ordinance. Once he refused and the case went to court, the judge
    had no choice but to follow the law and order the dog's death once
    found guilty because the dog had severely bitten. The extent of the
    injuries were a next to worst case on I n Dunbar's graded bite scale.
    Worst is death. The bites were multiple, deep, with damage to tissue
    and muscle and loss of blood. The dog could not be called off by his
    owner and the attack went on for some three minutes or so. The victim
    required some three hours of surgery and pictures of the scars are
    pretty graphic and awful. These were not scratches.

    It's a little more complicated than that.....they were asked to wait,
    and they waited 15 minutes. At around 15 minutes the wife came home,
    she'd been out looking for one of the "puppies" that had broken thru
    the invisible fence and gone wandering. When the wife pulled up the
    men got out of their vehicle and went with her into the yard.
    The 5
    dogs that were loose in the yard came running to see Mrs. James and
    things got out of hand from there. The men did NOT wander onto the
    property, and Mrs. James was unable to control her dogs.

    • Gold Top Dog

    HHHmmmm,,,why is it that this is the only time I have read this side of the story?

    And why would the guy had to get rabies shots when the dog was right there? 

    All the other stories might have been one sided...but I have a feeling this one is a little far fetched.

    • Bronze

    The guy had to get rabies shots because the only way to test for rabies is to send the dog's head to a lab.  Since there are multiple bites and multiple dogs - the heads of all the dogs would have to go to the lab for testing.  The family is fighting tooth and nail to keep this dog alive - by the time the court stuff got done for all the dogs (what is the count - 6?), the victim could have died of rabies.

     As for the rest of the story being far-fetched - why do you think that?  The more I hear about this, the more the dogs sound like those typical of those involved in a serious or fatal attack.

    • Gold Top Dog

    When the wife pulled up the
    men got out of their vehicle and went with her into the yard.
    The 5
    dogs that were loose in the yard came running to see Mrs. James and
    things got out of hand from there.

    They were walking with the Mrs...and the dogs came running to see her and then got out of hand from there?   I don't know...I suppose it could happen,,,can't say it couldnt...but would it?  Would a sensible human being walk people into their yard when they know they have a dog that could attack...much less 5 dogs?

    And Congo LED the pack in attack?  So they are holding the dog that planned the whole thing while the others are let go?

    I don't know.... I only know that everywhere I read that the guys were told to stay in their car and did not.  

    So I guess we need to know the REAL story.  Perhaps they both are a little far fetched.