Pit Bull Fighters on Myspace!

Here is what he wrote to me......
 
 
 
I was raised around dog fighters and fighting breeds, as a kid I could never understand why these game dogs bred for gameness and fought to prove their gameness could be so intense in a fight and yet play with myself and my friends more gentley than golden retrievers. At a young age I watched these dogs fight and fight hard with out barking or growling, no hair raising and tails wagging whether they were winning or loosing. I watched their eagerness to fight regardless of the pain just as a beagle will hunt regardless of how bloody his paws get. I watched them actually love to fight with the same intense calmness that a golden retriever chases a ball. They had no displays of aggression they simply scratched and pulled until released. I never understood why when I stepped on their toes, they didnt snap and yet poodles would I NOW UNDERSTAND as I got older I began to meet other pits that werent game and noticed their aggression towards people and desire to fight other dogs out for dominance which caused them to give up and submit the minute they began losing. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE PITS AND THE PITS I GREW UP WITH. The difference was the lack of understanding their owners had regarding the word GAME.

To this day I still know dog fighters, some truly educated in gameness and how to breed for it and some that think any pit that growls is game. Some that fight their dogs by old school scratch line rules to prove gameness yet avoid death and extreme injury to their dogs and some that care nothing about their dogs or its blood lines and allow their dogs to fight until death..

I am not a dog fighter, but I support the life and breeding of the GAME BRED AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER. Many people feel they are doing good by the pit by bad mouthing dog fighters but actually know none. WELL LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF, I at one time was a dog fighter, a pit man. I not only was able to pick game pits by 6-8 weeks of age but I was able to condition non-game pits and other breeds how to fight against a game pits by staying low, tucking its feet, etc. Due to the ignorance of so many young pit fighters I realized it was impossible for this activity to be done with out pits constantly being killed and impossible to prevent pit men from buying dogs and that they truly cared nothing about. Basically the sport of dog fighting wasnt wrong to me if done correctly but had been so abundantly done in ingnorance that it became wrong. I do not feel that dog fighting by scratch line and turn match rules is wrong though, but I do feel that for the love of the breed and the ignorance of man that even this form should be discontinued. My and many of my homies dogs are game because we are very selective in their breeding, those pups that show signs of gameness by 6 weeks old we keep to continue our lines, those that dont we place in good homes. None of my pits ever have showed aggression towards a human and approximately 75% or more make awful guard dogs but good protection dogs. Theyd help you steel from the home they live in and probably beg you to play with them while you were robbing me blind, as long as your not a dog. For this reason my dogs are kept under tight control, theyve never injured another human or animal. They will protect my kids, the neighbors kids, your kids, and women, I guess they think men can protect themselves.



The pictures you see on my page are because they are my pictures or just caught my eye, I make no judgement on them and was very aware that many of you would be shocked and appawled by the images, truth is, I dont really care. Im an asshole and thats how assholes tend to be. BUT DONT LET THIS ASSHOLE CAUSE YOU TO BE A JACK ASS.



I remain in close contact with pit men, some I respect for their fight knowledge and some that I dont. Many of them live in areas that many of you would never venture to. I do my work in the hood, on the streets, not on the internet or through petitions. If they ban pit bulls, it wouldnt affect me or them just like outlawing mariuana doesnt affect us. I assist in rehabilitating aggressive dogs and placing pits that have lost fights and been thrown aside into loving homes. I can do this because the streets trust me. I have convinced many dog fighters to not only stop, but turn over their pits. Id be willing to bet that none of you have done this nor ever will. Continue to feel safe in your home behind your computer with your signatures and Ill continue to feel safe on the street.

He copied and pasted it from his site...I read that earlier

Im an asshole and thats how assholes tend to be. BUT DONT LET THIS ASSHOLE CAUSE YOU TO BE A JACK ASS.

 
He still fights them and that is the point. He condones fighting these dogs. There is no reason for it. These dogs are loyal to their human pack without jerks like this.
 
One of his street buddies will jack him around. What goes around comes around.

Well the sad thing is he thinks he is doing the breed a favor. It gives me a headache just thinking about it.

Owning a PB because of their reputation as agressive fighters is just as bad as avoiding or legislating against them for the same reason.

ORIGINAL: keedokes

Owning a PB because of their reputation as agressive fighters is just as bad as avoiding or legislating against them for the same reason.

 
If I may be cheesy for a moment.........BRAVO, that is worded very nicely!

The bear thing is very sad[]
 
 

People like this make me sick, and trust me no one that fights their dogs actually cares for them even if the tell you 'I make sure they dont get really hurt'
 
Its like giving a knife to a 2 year old for him o run around with. It doesnt make you a good parent just because you are making sure the kid doesnt stab himself or anyone else.
 
As for the bitch being tied up and bred that doesnt seem cruel at all to me. Many sites have these contraptons for sale simply because there are very antsy bitches who for some reason or the other will not stand for the stud. I will admit she looks pretty pitiful but shes not being hurt it just makes the process easier and also prevents the bitch from lashing out and possibly injuring the stud...IMO

These are the humans which should be banned & ut down         for they are FAR more dangerous to all of society and nature!
 
I do free AKC CGC evals for itts. Does your State have a pro CGC legislation or insurance. 

In one of the videos the male dog is mating and in the middle of it he throws up.. whats that about?

I didn't go to the site but can tell you that many people use springpoles for play and treadmills for exercise.  It's like saying that every human who uses a treadmill is readying him/herself for the boxing ring. A person whom I know that is into reascue uses a treadmill to "walk" her dogs since she can't walk them together or for as long as they need to be properly exercised.  She has a springpole for play time.

Lori, in the State of Florida, the treadmill and spring poles are illegal and are considered tools used to prime a PB for fights. I don't know about other states. But it is this way for Florida.

In one of the videos the male dog is mating and in the middle of it he throws up.. whats that about?

 
This can happen when the dog is over excited..it isn't uncommon especially if the bitch isn't complying and the male makes several excited passes without tying

treadmill and spring poles are illegal and are considered tools used to prime a PB for fights

 
This is becoming the norm in many places. Many breeds of dogs are worked on a treadmill. I was just speaking with a judge this past weekend who uses one for her poodles...doubt she's fighting them []
 
Personally I would be more concerned with *used* breaking sticks

ORIGINAL: amstaffy


Personally I would be more concerned with *used* breaking sticks

 
What about breaking sticks that just LOOK used?  I have mentioned before that I used to have a dog aggressive APBT.  I had a breaking stick for her, just in case.  She never got in a fight (no thanks to her) but, since she always carried the stick on our walks, it certainly looked well used.  []
 
What many people here don't realize, or apparently don't realize, is that there is another side of pit bull owners.  A darker side, if you will.  Notice I said another side of pit bull owners, NOT another side of pit bull ownership.  This darker side of pit bull owners believe, as many Border Collie owners do, that pit bulls should be bred for what they can do, not how they look.  Their arguement is not without merit, to me.
 
I don't think this guy's site promotes fighting.  I think it promotes game bred pit bulls.  Although his site doesn't promote the breed the way I would like to see it promoted, I really didn't see anything there that I objected to, per se.  Like I said, he and many other pit bull owners, are about game bred dogs and not about dogs who are bred to some appearance standard.  Far be it from me to say he is wrong.  He is just different from me.
 
There are ways you can become informed on game bred dogs, if you have any interest.  There are books, magazines and there are internet sites.  There are breeders you can contact.  There are, to be sure, people who hog, people who bear bait, and people who fight their dogs.  You can find them all, right there from the comfort of your own home, and ask them questions.  They might look at dog ownership differently than we do, but I won't say they are ALL bad people because of that.