AKC judging policy

The article is here
[linkhttp://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=2889]http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=2889[/link]
 
The only thing that I saw was pretty much conformation restrictions since exempts them from the others.....
 
 
Events held by the following organizations meet the above criteria, and AKC-approved judges may continue to judge them:

• American Sighthound Field Association Coursing Events
  
• American Working Terrier Association Earthdog Events
  
• American Herding Breed Association Events
  
• North American Versatility Dog Association Pointing Breed Hunting Tests
  
• American Field Pointing Breed Field Trials
  
• United Kennel Club Coonhound Events
  
• Professional Kennel Club Coonhound Events
  
• Any of the various organizations sponsoring Agility Trials

All judges of UKC Belgian Shepherds have been notified they may no longer judge in both venues.  Herding judges have been excluded from AHBA and ASCA.  The letters are in hand.  I have not heard of other breeds as yet, but I would guess there are some.

Should have indicated the border collie judging events not AHBA.  sorry

I know it will be an issue with many UKC judges as they are also AKC judges too.
 
 I seriuosly am re-evaluating my support of AKC as time moves on. I would move all my dogs to UKC registration if UKC would recognize the Am Staff as an Am Staff and not single register as an APBT. I have recently found out about a new "show" hosting organization
[linkhttp://www.vaxxine.com/rarities/]http://www.vaxxine.com/rarities/[/link]
They are not a registry but host shows and give titles..I'm seriously thinking of showing my dogs here of course I am but one person but I guess one person telling 10 will tell 10 will tell........
 
I think AKC is really working the dog fancy out of the fancy

I find this particularly disheartening as well.  I certainly dont understand all the millions they spend on judges ed.  An awful lot of that work is done by clubs with volunteers.

MRV, we've been looking at this over on the BC Boards, and I'm a bit confused as to the wording. Does that mean that someone who is an AKC judge for their herding trials cannot judge the USBCHA trials now (Border Collie Trials)? Is that the way you understand it?

Yup that is it exactly.  The only herding venue that AKC judges can do in addition to AKC is AHBA.  Leaves the ASCA folks out in the cold too.  Makes for 99 herding judges for the entire country.  Yikes
 

mrv,
 
Have you had any input/discussions from current judges that this rule would effect?  Seems like if the AKC suddenly did not have any judges available or able to judge (if all the judges banded together and said, "fine, no AKC"), they might have to rethink this rule.  Perhaps AKC judges need a union?

Well Wayne Cavenaugh comes to mind [].  I am on a belgian discussion list.  This is creating considerable havoc in the breed ring.  It is also going to impact obedience and rally (AKC vs UKC).  There is considerable discussion about a lawsuit.  There is some thing in the North Carolina charter (or some other such specific name) about the right to work.  Since AKC has major operations there some are considering a challenge in that state to start.  In reality, judges are independent contractors hired by licensed AKC clubs.  So the legalities are pretty confusing to my mind.  Apparently a large show put on by a pretigious kennel club did something with AKC and UKC conformation events.  There is a major fine and a mention of the situation in the current Gazette.  The idea has been on the agendas of many delegate meetings in all venues for the past couple of years.  I think the recent show and the income related issues are what brought it to a head right now.  I personally know of 9 judges this affects just in my general location of the country.

 I heard about this a month or so ago.  This really irritates me!I think the judges should be able to judge whereever they'd like.  The same goes for handlers. I know this is going around among the handlers right now.  I THINK (correct me if I am wrong) that if you handle for ANY AKC event (whether for pay or not) you may not handle for UKC events.  This seems like a monopoly of sorts.  Grrr.....[:@]

havent heard the handling issue at all.  the focus in my breed/varieties has all been on judges.  One of the major complaints  reported is that AKC does all the monitoring and approving, and other clubs accept the AKC judging as adequate demonstration they can judge for the new/different club.  Kind a wonder about that one since most judges education is done by breed clubs, who are in reality licensed by the AKC.

Well, off the top of my head, in addition to the right to work issue (which I believe is in quite a few states), I'd also think there may be a co-employment issue.  Might be worth asking a lawyer.  Should be a lawyer judge that would have some ideas. 
 
Would the judges be willing to say bye-bye to the AKC in order to call AKC's bluff?  AKC seems to think they run the world and few people have the balls to tell them they don't. 
 
I know the BCOA (basenji not borzoi) has to send out 2 flyers for the specialty.  One for the AKC events and another for the ASFA coursing.    Seems really stupid (waste of time, postage, etc) to me.

I find it quite disheartening.

Been toying with the idea of NOT showing or registering AKC anymore since the PAWS thing. This has pretty much sealed the deal...especially now that UKC has fixed it so we can indeed attain Top 10 points even if we only do conformation. I just don't know WHAT is going on over there these days...it's really scary if you ask me!
 
I have heard at least one major judges club has sent them a strongly worded letter...but bottom line...barring a walk out AKC won't even bat an eyelash. This IMO is their disicplinary "snap" into the face of all those breed clubs and judges who came out in opposition to PAWS and their stance on it.