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ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: Shadomoon

ORIGINAL: timsdat

I look forward to the day when I actually find a breeder that's responsible enough to meet the criteria I posted in a prior post.

Well what do you think should be done?  What are your suggestions?  I have seen where people has suggested that we go to a No Birth Nation.  Would that clear up all the problems?

Take note from China with their human overpopulation.  Only keep the males.   Leave the females in parks, shelters, or just kill them. 

I hope your statement is some kind of a joke that I don't get.....[sm=asking03.gif]

 
Yeah it is a joke.  In fact that is what they do in China due to overpopulation.  Sad isnt it. 
 
 

ORIGINAL: mrv

So breeders are responsible for the life of the dogs (which I do believe) but owners are left off the hook if the dog ends up in the shelter.  Since I know of dogs that have been purchased by folks who started out trying to buy a dog, got turned down and got a bit more savy each time they approached someone (references even).  Eventually they managed to get through multiple layers of screening.  Then were bad owners either intentionally or unintentionally and only the breeder is responsible.... Sorry I support personal responsiibility in a more equitable manner. 

 
What I'm talking about is all of the shelter animals that are dying because their owners never step forth, or whose owners dump them in the pounds.  Either way, the dog has no one and is in danger of being killed, and that's when the breeder should be required to be the dog's safety net.  I'd certainly do it with the dogs I place, and I can worry about the owners later.  Owners really can't be penalized by the pound for taking their dogs to the pound, because that's only going to encourage dumping dogs on the streets.
 
The thing is, responsible breeders would really want to be called, want to get their dog back, and the rest of the breeders don't need to be breeding at all.
 

BTW  the majority of breeders I know will take their dogs back if the shelters contact them.  However, some don't even with tatoos and microchips, at one time  (in recent past)  a large municiple  shelter essentially in my backyard wouldnt even check for microchips because they "discourage" compliance with licensing. 

 
I can't even imagine not microchipping just because the shelter doesn't check.  What if the dog is picked up in another district?  That seems very short-sighted to me - and why not tattoo?  Do those breeders realize that a tattoo could save that dog from medical research?  Does the shelter also fail to check ID tags because they discourage compliance with licensing? 

ORIGINAL: Shadomoon

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

ORIGINAL: Shadomoon

ORIGINAL: timsdat

I look forward to the day when I actually find a breeder that's responsible enough to meet the criteria I posted in a prior post.

Well what do you think should be done?  What are your suggestions?  I have seen where people has suggested that we go to a No Birth Nation.  Would that clear up all the problems?

Take note from China with their human overpopulation.  Only keep the males.   Leave the females in parks, shelters, or just kill them. 

I hope your statement is some kind of a joke that I don't get.....[sm=asking03.gif]

Yeah it is a joke.  In fact that is what they do in China due to overpopulation.  Sad isnt it. 

"They leave the females  in parks or shelters or just kill them? "  [&:]

"They leave the females in parks or shelters or just kill them? "

do you not watch the news? cbs news did a story on this in the last month or so. this isnt as common anymore since the average chinese person is more affluent. they can afford to pay the gov't fines for having more than one child. prior to this chinese children's shelters were overflowing with female babies. i dont think the practice of killing female babies has been done for a few decades, but it is part of chinese history.

unfortunately, the chinese government is starting to crack down on the one child rule. people who were getting by having more than one child and avoiding the fines are having their property and in some cases their children seized by the government. the more affluent people are going to be facing stiffer fines in the near future. so it will be harder to pay the fines for them as well. so we may be seeing somewhat of a return to ways of the past in the near future.

ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

"They leave the females in parks or shelters or just kill them? "

do you not watch the news? cbs news did a story on this in the last month or so. this isnt as common anymore since the average chinese person is more affluent. they can afford to pay the gov't fines for having more than one child. prior to this chinese children's shelters were overflowing with female babies. i dont think the practice of killing female babies has been done for a few decades, but it is part of chinese history.

unfortunately, the chinese government is starting to crack down on the one child rule. people who were getting by having more than one child and avoiding the fines are having their property and in some cases their children seized by the government. the more affluent people are going to be facing stiffer fines in the near future. so it will be harder to pay the fines for them as well. so we may be seeing somewhat of a return to ways of the past in the near future.

One more reason not to buy anything made in China.