AB1634 COULD DENY CALIFORNIA PETS MADDIE'S FUND GRANTS

    • Gold Top Dog
    Mexico. http://www.cwob.org/rescue.html

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    Since 2001, Compassion Without Borders, has been coordinating an international rescue from Mexico to Northern California. To date, we have saved the lives of hundreds of dogs. The rescue is a collaborative effort between Compassion without Borders and our partner organizations.



    if i am not mistaken this group (or one very similar) was featured on an episode of the dog whisperer on the NGC.

    i thought it was odd at the time that they work on helping dogs in mexico find homes in the US instead of helping dogs in teh US find homes.
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    • Gold Top Dog
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    from my very own Live Free or Die state... low-cost spay/neuter assistance programs.
    [linkhttp://www.mfoa.net/news/companion_animals/spay_maine.html]http://www.mfoa.net/news/companion_animals/spay_maine.html[/link]


    We have these same type programs in California too. Why don't people use them

    This seems to me to reinforce Gina's point - that the local municipalities understand their constituents better than anyone else.  (Wow, my Democrat-roots are turning over as I say that!)  As a resident, you really think they are too lazy and ignorant to  use it?

    From a great distance away, with very little experience in the variety of California culture, I can only guess.  I wonder if much of that program you mention goes directly into the community that DOESN'T use the services?  Meaning, if nobody in my community talks about the spay/neuter offered at the shelter, and I don't see the signs about it, and I don't surf the internet to those places, I can see where I'd miss that the services are offered.  Perhaps they already do(?).  I imagine language plays a decent role, sometimes, too.  Obviously there are some who simply do NOT want to spay/neuter... and that is their right, imo.  It is OUR right not to be disturbed/threatened/assaulted by their dogs... but if they do that, keep their dogs on leash, and don't spay/neuter... I'm ok with that in most cases. 
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    • Gold Top Dog
    Would you kindly post the name and address of any shelter that needs to import animals from Mexico, so we can contact them . We have animals right here in Georgia, that need homes so they can avoid being destroyed,

     
    Yes, we take your dogs from Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, etc on a regular basis up here.  Timsdat pointed out Save-a-Sato which I have had personal experience with - notice that 6 of the 9 are New England rescues, and yet they use plenty of other shelters throughout the US. 
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    Down here you hear a lot from AC officals that they can't place the large and bully breed dogs.  People want little dogs or puppies.  There are a lot of people living the condo life or are older and don't think they can handle a large dog.  We have so few insurance companys in the state that write policies and many have breed restrictions.
    I believe that it is Broward SPCA that gets a lot of PotCake dogs.
     
     
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    ORIGINAL: timsdat

    Do you notice a theme about these dogs coming from overseas.
    puppies,  puppies,   puppies.



    What they need in those countries is a law like AB1634...
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

    Mexico. [linkhttp://www.cwob.org/rescue.html]http://www.cwob.org/rescue.html[/link]

    quote:

    Since 2001, Compassion Without Borders, has been coordinating an international rescue from Mexico to Northern California. To date, we have saved the lives of hundreds of dogs. The rescue is a collaborative effort between Compassion without Borders and our partner organizations.



    if i am not mistaken this group (or one very similar) was featured on an episode of the dog whisperer on the NGC.

    i thought it was odd at the time that they work on helping dogs in mexico find homes in the US instead of helping dogs in teh US find homes.


    I think it is odd.... **Content Removed - Off Topic and Rude Post**
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    I think it is odd.... They ship us illegal immigrants, criminals, drugs, and now the dog's they don't want....


    "they" are not shipping dogs to the US. at least not in the story i saw. a rescue group goes to mexican shelters and brings dogs back to the US.

    this is copied directly from the web site posted above....

    "We select friendly, adoptable dogs from these locations and hen bring them back to California for a temporary quarantine at Animal Place, a local sanctuary, before they are adopted out into safe, loving, permanent homes via various rescue organizations and local shelters."

    why does this group feel the need to help animals outside the US while ones in the US are dying each day? that is a question best answered by them.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: cyclefiend2000

    I think it is odd.... They ship us illegal immigrants, criminals, drugs, and now the dog's they don't want....


    "they" are not shipping dogs to the US. at least not in the story i saw. a rescue group goes to mexican shelters and brings dogs back to the US.

    this is copied directly from the web site posted above....

    "We select friendly, adoptable dogs from these locations and hen bring them back to California for a temporary quarantine at Animal Place, a local sanctuary, before they are adopted out into safe, loving, permanent homes via various rescue organizations and local shelters."

    why does this group feel the need to help animals outside the US while ones in the US are dying each day? that is a question best answered by them.



    Well apparently, this group is an all volunteer group and is privately support by contributions. It has focused on helping out no-kill shelters in Mexico, by taking dogs from them and having them shipped to the US.  Since it is not taking government funds, they can do anything they want.  The idea that we in the US,  ship dogs from other areas, because our shelters are empty, is ridiculous as far as I am concerned.  All the shelters in every city I have lived in have been filled to the max.  If someone wants to set up a private non-profit shelter and ship dogs from anywhere in the world, to their shelter, and place them for adoption,  that is their right.  
    [linkhttp://www.cwob.org/about.html]http://www.cwob.org/about.html[/link]
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    that is their right

     
    Gee it's amazing who should and shouldn't have rights to sell dogs in this country.
     
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    if i am not mistaken, the humane society in spartanburg, sc ships puppies to the north shore animal league in NY. i know that the majority of amelia's litter was sent there. actually i think all but amelia was sent. they didnt think she was adoptable.

    the lady we adopted amelia from recently sent a litter of boxer pups north as well. i am not sure where exactly, but i konw we talked to her about it right before she sent them. she had kept them for a few months and no one was interested here. she was trying to get transport for them while they were still young pups. the update email she sent us stated that all the pups were adopted within a week or two upon arriving at their new destination.

    mirandobe in an above post pointed out the new england area takes shelter dogs from the southeast as well. are all the shelters taking in dogs from other areas supported by the government? probably not. why should the tax payers of the new england states take on an extra tax burden because their municipal shelters are empty? thankfully there are rescue groups there trying to help out when they can.

    you can decide to be blind to the fact that this happens, but that doesnt mean it doesnt happen. i would think a person who actively supports their local shelter would want to educate themselves about opportunities that may be available to dogs facing euthanization, but then you may have to accept that there are options other than forcing a law on everyone.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Maddie's doesn't support programs in places where S/N is mandatory, but their work promoting s/n and adoption has made an enormous difference in New York City, whose rates of euthanizing healthy pets are way down. Several years ago Maddie's Fund, in cooperation with animal rescue groups operating under the Mayor's Alliance for NYC's Animals, began a two-pronged campaign which includes subsidizing s/n for lower income residents, promoting s/n for every pet, and encouraging adoptions. NYC's only mandatory s/n law holds that any stray entering the shelter system must be fixed before it is released.
     
     Since the effort began, the number of healthy pets euthanized annually in NYC shelters has declined from about 14,000 in 2003 to 3,800 in 2006. In Feb. of 2007, the city said that it had its first month ever in which no healthy or treatable dog or cat was euthanized in one of its shelters.

    However, at this point, virtually all of the gain seems to be coming from adoptions, which have risen from 12,800 annually before the program started to 22,000 last year.
     
     By contrast, the number of animals winding up in shelters has only declined slightly, indicating that the spay/neuter efforts may be having only a small effect. I say 'may' because the data are not very comprehensive and there may be other reasons why the shelter population is not declining, and it will take a more comprehensive study, probably after a few more years, to determine that....