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Posted : 8/17/2007 4:30:35 AM

brandy76, you need to make a timeline for when you plan to do vaccines, class, and your spay (assuming, of course, that you don't plan to breed). Example:

10 weeks - Distemper+Parvovirus, MLV (shot) -
                [Intervet Progard Puppy DPv]
11 weeks - Bordetella (nasal - good for 24 weeks) -
                [give 4+ days before class]
12 weeks - start class
14 weeks - Distemper+Parvovirus, MLV (shot)
18 weeks - Distemper+Parvovirus, MLV (shot - optional)
24 weeks - Rabies (shot)
28 weeks - Spay (talk to breeder & vet for correct timing)
32 weeks - Adenovirus+Parainfluenza+Bordetella (nasal) -
                [Intervet Progard-KC Plus]
52 weeks - Rabies (shot)
56 weeks - Distemper+Parvovirus, MLV (shot)

I looked online but I didn't find just Adenovirus+Parainfluenza or just Adenovirus. Doesn't mean they don't exist, but I didn't find them.

Especially since you are going to be seeing more than one vet, be sure to get copies of the vet records for each visit and keep them in a notebook. Also get copies of all test results.

Luvntzus

Posted : 8/17/2007 5:19:11 AM

I've actually never know of anyone who takes a puppy STRAIGHT to the vet without even going home first. I think going sometime within the first 48 hours is fine. One big reason I wouldn't take the puppy straight to the vet is that it's already a very stressful time for them. I think moderation in all things is good. I wouldn't get too bogged down in all the details because it can be overwhelming and there's no one "right" answer. [

] People have differing opinions on just about everything.

As far as socializing, I've always taken my puppies out right away, but aside from the area immediately around my home, I carried them. I definitely wouldn't go to any dog parks right away or put him on the floor at Petsmart. At the vet I took a baby blanket and put them on that on the scale and exam table.

Edited to add, something that may help the transition of your puppy leaving the security of his littermates and getting used to crate training is something called a "Snuggle Puppy". It's an update on the old towel covered hot water bottle and ticking alarm clock. It's a stuffed animal with a heartbeat and heat pack. I wish I had one for Gingerbread and Fudge. I'm planning on getting one for my next puppy. Here's a link to a place that sells them:
http://www.snugglepuppiesandmore.com/

janet_rose

Posted : 8/17/2007 7:27:18 AM

Beginning info for new puppy owners (including how to get some sleep):
http://forum.dog.com/asp/m.asp?m=296285 (post)
http://forum.dog.com/asp/m.asp?m=316689 (post)
http://forum.dog.com/asp/m.asp?m=412061 (thread)

mudpuppy

Posted : 8/17/2007 8:18:38 AM

it's actually safer to give one combo shot than to give multiple shots-- most reactions are to the adjuvant and carrier, and the more shots you give the more adjuvant and carrier your pup is exposed to. And at least around here it's incredibly risky to not vaccinate for rabies right away. Despite all the rumors about vaccines, they are very safe. There is zero concrete evidence that "over vaccination" poses any kind of risk, and lots of evidence that "under vaccination" causes serious health problems. I wouldn't follow Dodd's protocol for puppies. Give every vaccine you can think of to puppies, do the full boosters at one year of age (except lyme, never give that one to any dog), and once the dog is two years old then you can safely think about skipping booster shots.

whtsthfrequency

Posted : 8/17/2007 10:36:01 AM

Everything is all set, since the dog is getting shipped & I already put in for my 2wk vacation from work

Shipped? A puppy shipped? erm...

janet_rose

Posted : 8/17/2007 2:51:47 PM

mudpuppy
it's actually safer to give one combo shot than to give multiple shots

If you look at the schedule I suggested, there are no extra shots. The Adenovirus+Parainfluenza is simply delayed until the second Bordetella, rather than given multiple times.

The AAHA does not recommend vaccinations for Corona or Giardia. It advises that Lyme and Lepto should be given only in areas where there is a high risk of exposure (Lyme is tick transferred). Lyme requires yearly shots while Lepto protection requires 2 shots a year. Note the minimum ages and side effect risks below.

(1) Lyme - Initial dose may be given at 9-12 weeks of age with a 2nd dose 2-4 weeks later. 85% of cases are in 9 New England area States, Minnesota and Wisconsin.
(2) Lepto - Toy breeds and pups <12 weeks are at high risk of acute anaphylaxis. Dogs should be vaccinated at 12 & 16wks of age and then at intervals of 6-9 months until the risk is reduced.

mudpuppy
And at least around here it's incredibly risky to not vaccinate for rabies right away.

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mudpuppy, you don't recommend Lyme, so other than Lepto, is there any vaccine I omitted from my suggested schedule?

Where do you live that a supervised puppy under 6mo is at such high risk of rabies?

Editted to correct a mis-statement. Lepto is not transferred by ticks.

brandy76

Posted : 8/17/2007 8:42:19 PM

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus
Edited to add, something that may help the transition of your puppy leaving the security of his littermates and getting used to crate training is something called a "Snuggle Puppy".

I bought this as soon as I found out she was coming - I love the heartbeat thing & warming pads.

ORIGINAL: janet_rose
brandy76, you need to make a timeline for when you plan to do vaccines, class, and your spay (assuming, of course, that you don't plan to breed). Example:

Thanks Janet, I will take this to my vet. The vet also recommended lepto (which I'm not to keen on) They said it's

revelant in my area, but I live in an apratment complex & wouldn't let the dog outside by herself. At night I've seen

ossums & skunks. Does that mean she's at risk for getting lepto if she walks/sniffs the same area those animals have walked on?

ORIGINAL: whtsthfrequency

Shipped? A puppy shipped? erm...

I read a lot of info that shipping puppies isn't that bad, since they're in an air conditioned area of the plane.

janet_rose

Posted : 8/17/2007 10:45:14 PM

brandy76
Does that mean she's at risk for getting lepto if she walks/sniffs the same area those animals have walked on?

If you decide to get a Lepto vaccine, do not get it before 12 weeks and wait at least 30 minutes before leaving!! It is very dangerous for younger puppies.

Read this web page on Leptospirosis(link) to understand the disease transmission.

Consideration points:
(1) The vaccine protection only lasts 6-8 months.
(2) The shots you get may or may not protect against the particular serovars (strains of Lepto) currently in your area.
(3) Leptospiral vaccines are blamed for many of the vaccine reactions seen in dogs - especially in toy dogs and puppies less than 12 weeks.
(4) Despite the possibility of severe infection and death, the majority of leptospiral infections in dogs are chronic or subclinical.
(5) People can contract Lepto.

Vet & new puppy