Jon & Kate Plus 8

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But insted they had to contribute to the over population of pets.

Interesting, considering during the time I was at our shelter, I can't recall a single dog that had originated from a reputable breeder.

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sillysally

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 the facts about adopting and teaching the kids about over population!

 

I think it's amusing to talk about preventing overpopulation in a subject about a family with 8 kids

 

Haven't watched it this season (I only watch if I happen to be flipping around and catch it on..I don't watch much tv) but I don't have a problem with someone choosing a breeder if that's best for their family

 

Hee-hee--glad I wasn't the only one amused by the overpopulation comment-lol.

Honestly, I have no issue with them wanting to get 2 pups at once if they are able to provide a good life for the dogs.  *I* would not do it, but then again I would have stopped with the first 2 kids, so I'm probably not a good barometer of such things.....Different strokes for different folks...

I feel like over population in humans is far different from pet over population. Seeing as how people can speak for them selves. They could have gone to a shelter (had that video taped) shown all the dogs and cats that are waiting for homes (had that video taped) talked about the fact that a lot of animals don't even make it out the front door, picked thier dogs from the shelter talked about how they come spayed/neutered, chiped, and vaccinated. It would have made for educational programming, and tought the Maddy and Kara about the importance of spay and neuter. Seeing as how this would have been all on the show it could have gotten other people to go out and adopt from thier local shelter and saved a life vs. a breeder. But insted they had to contribute to the over population of pets.

So you think that it is better for people to adopt a pet simply because they feel guilty about not doing so or because Jon and Kate said they should?  And here I always thought that it was best for a family to chose a companion based on research and thinking about what animal will best fit their situation......

Liesje

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But insted they had to contribute to the over population of pets.

 

Interesting, considering during the time I was at our shelter, I can't recall a single dog that had originated from a reputable breeder.

I have to agree.  Reputable breeders take their pups back for life.  And, frankly, not everyone wants to adopt from a shelter for various reasons, not the least of which is that they may be aging themselves, and are concerned for where the dog would go if they predecease it.  I've rescued dogs all my life and bought only one.  But, I can honestly say that, while I keep my dogs forever once I adopt them, I might be more inclined to rescue from a breed rescue that takes dogs back, rather than from a shelter that doesn't, or purchase from a reputable breeder, at this stage of my life -for the safety of the dogs should something happen to me.  The key thing is to examine your lifestyle (for the next fifteen years) and part of the decision needs to hinge on things like whether you will be old, or whether you may move, or whether you plan a family, etc.  Not everyone's needs are the same.

All that having been said, I find the show, and the people on it, insipid.  I think that people's private lives, especially their arguments, should not be a matter for public consumption.   It's unseemly.

spiritdogs

  I think that people's private lives, especially their arguments, should not be a matter for public consumption.   It's unseemly.

I agree 100% Anne.  I can watch anything in a movie knowing it's not real, but some of these reality shows make you feel like you're standing outside somebody's window with binoculars.

Joyce

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I feel like over population in humans is far different from pet over population. Seeing as how people can speak for them selves.

But that argument doesn't really make sense..humans can speak for themselves, yes..but that doesn't change the fact that there are children in the country without families of their own. And yet no one berates a pregnant woman for not adopting.  Families need do research and decide which dog is best for their home and decide from there where they'd find that particular dog. Great dogs can be found in both places. 

 I do think people should think hard before inviting cameras into their lives..especially when children are involved. But, it seems shows like that are popping up all over. Once in awhile at night I catch an episode of the Duggars in their bid to populate a small country one uterus at a time

I would just like to say that the whole thing makes me sad.  I used to watch when they were a typical american family.  Now things have spiraled so out of control its just sad.

Their marriage is a mess, the kids are in the middle and personally I think TLC is convincing Kate that they need to continue - almost feeding her ego.  Since they have isolated themselves so much for everything and everyone those are the only words she hears. 

I wish/hope they stop the show.  I look back at old footage/epidsodes and things might have been harder for them financially, but at least they were a family.  It's just a sad situation.

 Wooohooo! They're being investigated by the Dept. of Labor!

I'd be very surprised if TLC violated Child Labor Laws, considering they're a very popular TV station. Maybe the Dept. of Labor should start investigating all reality TV shows involving children (The Duggars....etc.). I know they defianly should be investigating child stars (movie, TV show, singers) more often, most of those kids are growing up to be screwed up.

 I have never heard of this programme before, I don't know, maybe it hasn't been on over here or maybe I have been living in a cave. 

Just read a couple of pages of this thread and I am already feeling totally sick to my stomach.  What a sick, sick idea for a "TV show".  I can't believe someone actually thought of this and said, "Hey!  that would be a good idea!".  I really cannot believe some people watch it, and ENJOY it.  I feel sick just hearing about it.  I hope they realise their mistake and do what it takes to get themselves OFF the TV and back to reality, and hopefully, peace and normality....

Edit - If they had bought from a pet shop, a dealer or BYB, I would be furious.  There is nothing wrong with buying from a reputable breeder, regardless of what PETA say to try to convince you otherwise.

 If the Dept of Labor is looking at them, they should start focusing on child athletes.  There has always been concern of that among the gymnastics community, what with 9-10 year old girls training 7+ hours a day, 6 days a week.

Chuffy

 I have never heard of this programme before, I don't know, maybe it hasn't been on over here or maybe I have been living in a cave. 

It might not be on over there, but even here a lot of people had never heard of it before their lives started unraveling in the public eye and everything they said or did made the news and/or the tabloids. Right now you can hardly get through a half hour news broadcast without hearing something about "Jon & Kate." Honestly, is there nothing else of any importance going on anywhere in the world?

Joyce