Why do owners who retire their show dog rehome them???

The name calling is the issue, not the disagreement. Disagreement is perfectly within the bounds of the forum rules.
The other, we can do without. Thank you for the response.

My first dog Bruce was a rehomes breeding/show dog.  He was retired, fixed and sent to live with a young couple.  They had a baby and Bruce was too "clumsy" to be in the house anymore so they crated him for 23 hours a day.  He came back to the kennel so weak in the hind end that the kennel owner thought about putting him down.  I told her, "I will take care of him." and I did.  We got him back at 11 and he lived until he was 14 1/2.  He was a "farm dog" and loved every minute of it.  I also took a 3 y/o show dog Joey that hated showing home from the kennel.  We knew he would adapt well to being rehomed after I took him to Vermont to my parent#%92s house for 2 weeks.  He was a perfect house dog...never barked, stayed out of the way, and didn#%92t jump (total opposite of what he was like at the kennel).  Joey ended up going to Paw For a Cause and is the assistance dog to a man in a wheel chair.  Before I got Belle I tried to get a rehomed Whippet.  The lady wanted me to pay half the money in a deposit and if the dog didn#%92t work out I didn#%92t get my deposit back.  I was like NO WAY!!!

ORIGINAL: rwbeagles

The name calling is the issue, not the disagreement. Disagreement is perfectly within the bounds of the forum rules.
The other, we can do without. Thank you for the response.

 
Yes Moderator, I understand.  Then referring to those that practice this reputible and good should also be an issue.  I regret the use of the name and should have referred to this group a "non" reputible and non 'good'.

Then referring to those that practice this reputible and good should also be an issue

 
Well that's only your opinion DPU...others on this thread don't share it....which is disagreement...which as I said...is fine, and not an issue. Your opinion on the issue of placing retired dogs is yours...others may have different opinions, and some agree and some don't. *shrug*

I always wondered this too so thanks for asking the question. I could never get why someone who has dedicated themselves to a dog would want to rehome it once it was retired or couldn't be bred. Now I understand that if they weren't bonded to the dog to begin with then they are giving the dog a better life. Still, what a shame for the dog until then!
 
 

DPU, why would it be bad for someone to want to rehome a dog so that it gets MORE attention and more specialized care?  It's not like these people aren't willing to keep their own dogs or are going to put them down (if THAT were the case, then I'd agree, it's very bad and unethical).  Ethical breeders use contracts that say a dog must be returned to them if it doesn't work out.  Why is it irresponsible for these breeders to find a returned dog a new home?  Why is it irresponsible for them to want a loving forever home for an older, retired dog?

How many of us have visited Petsmart and Petco where you always see the Greyhound Rescue showing the discarded dogs.  Next time, talk to them and hear their stories. 

Well, I don't agree with racing dogs like that, so you're preaching to the choir there! I don't mind sighthounds lure coursing at all, but I don't agree with producing dogs for human entertainment like betting. 

Not all dog breeds, dog sports, and dog breeders can be painted with the same brush, truly you realize this.

ORIGINAL: Liesje

DPU, why would it be bad for someone to want to rehome a dog so that it gets MORE attention and more specialized care?  It's not like these people aren't willing to keep their own dogs or are going to put them down (if THAT were the case, then I'd agree, it's very bad and unethical).

 
This is not bad.  This is what I do for the discarded dog.  I do believe this group would PTS if there are no takers.  The dog surely has a bond with the owner, the owner has no bond with the dog.  Noncaring means discard.
 

 ORIGINAL:   Liesji
Ethical breeders use contracts that say a dog must be returned to them if it doesn't work out.  Why is it irresponsible for these breeders to find a returned dog a new home?  Why is it irresponsible for them to want a loving forever home for an older, retired dog?

 
To me money back guarantees for defects is not ethical.  Shared responsibility, both time and financial is ethical in my mind.  There are emotional stakes involved. 

Liesje....as a person who's been questioned on this issue before, I can say it's probably a lost cause to argue. One has to reconcile with oneself at the end of the day, not other people. You need to be able to let the judgments of said other people...who come from a different place...stand, and move on.
 
People who spent the time researching and picking a breeder never entertained the thought that the breeder might not give them a puppy or dog because the breeder is "too bonded'...in fact they'd probably be pretty upset if that happened everywhere they looked. They expect us to let go of dogs we breed sometimes...while judging us for doing it other times. They put a different value on the time and heart you invest in a puppy, and that you invest in a dog showing it or doing breedings with it, etc. They assume you are caring enough about your dogs to screen potential owners under a microscope and do all these tests prior to breeding and generate these ironclad contracts etc...yet then they call you uncaring when the dog you place isn't 8 weeks old.
 
It's a teeter totter lol. One I've learned is best left alone...and instead be at peace with your decisions within yourself...and not allow outside influences and judgements, to fiddle about with them. As with so many things in breeding, you are damned if you do...and even more damned if you don't. []

ORIGINAL: Liesje

Well, I don't agree with racing dogs like that, so you're preaching to the choir there! I don't mind sighthounds lure coursing at all, but I don't agree with producing dogs for human entertainment like betting. 

Not all dog breeds, dog sports, and dog breeders can be painted with the same brush, truly you realize this.

 
The lines are not clearly drawn as to who is evil and who is good.  And how is JQP to know? 

To me money back guarantees for defects is not ethical. Shared responsibility, both time and financial is ethical in my mind. There are emotional stakes involved.

What do money back guarantees for health defects have to do with this though?  Anyway, all of the reputable breeders I've researched do not offer "money back" guarantees for anything.  They guarantee against certain defects up to a certain point (generally 2 years) and should the dog develop the defect, they give several options of how to proceed, but I've never seen a reputable breeder offer to take a dog back and give the money back, nor have I seen them unconditionally guarantee against health defects.

If you are referring to Chopper, she has no health defects.  She was returned because of a bad accident.  Her owner loved her so much that he returned her b/c she feared him, was under a lot of stress, and it broke her family's hearts.  Sometimes what is in the dog's best interest is NOT what is easiest or in the best interest of the humans.  If ever there was a case where emotional stakes were involved, it's hers.

Rwbeagles, I am not sure what is your intent on attempting to shut down this very important discussion.  I have no problem with breeders and what they do.  I do take issue with what owners do with their dogs after they have served their purpose.  Look at all the pure bred rescue groups and you will see you are outnumbered.  As part of that group why bury your head in the sand.  Isn't there something you can do?

Look at all the pure bred rescue groups and you will see you are outnumbered.

What's that supposed to mean?  I only have experience with a breed rescue for German Shepherds, but most of their dogs who were actually surrendered to shelters or as fosters were from BYBs, NOT ethical breeders like Gina and my breeder.  Ethical breeders always take their dogs back, IMO, that's part of the definition of an ethical breeder.

Posting my opinion is hardly shutting down a convo DPU. The drama isn't necessary.
My observations, that I felt like sharing with Liesje...are mine to share. Please do not dictate to me what I may post on a thread. Thanks.