Pronouncing Breed Names...

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    Pronouncing Breed Names...

    Ok...I have a confession to make! More than a couple of times I have realized I have been butchering a certain breed's name.......like the Papillon, I used to say Puh-pill-ion. (I know there is no second "i", but for some reason I added one in!). And the Keeshond....I thought it was exactly like it looks like it should sound. The Weimariner is technically "Vy-mah-rah-ner" and I used to say it with the "W" sound. The Samoyed, I thought it was pronounced "sam-oyed" just like it looks, but in my AKC Complete Dog Book it says "Sam-a-yed".

    And don't even get me started on the Bouvier des Flandres!!

    So....anyone else guilty of this too? Maybe I should watch more national dog shows, that would surely help. [:D]
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    I don't usually have problems with pronunciation. The way I go about pronouncing breed names is to figure out which language the name is based in or where the breed is from.

    Bouvier des Flandres would be in french, so it's "Boo-vee-ay day Flawn-druh." Papillon is also french, it means butterfly. I think Samoyed is Russian, and I've seen it spelled 'Samojed', so I would say 'Sam-oi-ed'.
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    I have the same exact problem as you and butchered the same exact breeds of dogs' names in the same way [:)]
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    Samoyed is the only one I really have problems with.
     
    It annoys me when people pronounced Weimeraner "Weim-er-rine-er"  It's an ah sound, not an "i" sound
     
    Keeshond is Kaze-ond.  I love saying the plurals of the Keeshond, Kuvasz, Komondor, and Puli!
     
    Keeshonden, Kuvaszok, Komondorok, and Pulik!
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    I had to learn Samoyed and Berger Picard (ber-zhay pee-car I think).  Those are the most recent ones.  Keeshond and Saarloos Wolfhond didn't trip me up b/c I'm Dutch.  Same for any German breed, I studied that language.  My sis gives me looks for saying Weimaraner "vy-mar-ah-ner", but that's how you say it.  Those are her favorite dogs and yep, she calls them "wime er ine ers".  Schnauzer is "shnow-tser".
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    I'm one of those annoying people who mis-pronouce dog breed names! Basenji, weimerainer, Kuvasz, and I didn't know Keeshond was pronouced Kaze-ond, Papillon gets me sometimes, and alot of others. I just. cant. get. over. the way things are spelled. I pronounce how it's spelled.
     
    It's embarassing when people correct me, atleast with the basenji I'm closer than any of the others, and this lady corrected me on it. I just thought to myself "I got the breed right tho, eh, what does it matter how much emphasis I put on the a?" 
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    I  cannot pronounce a lot of the breeds either![:)]  My step-mom really irks me.  She calls a Rottie a "Rockwieler"  My dad calls a Weimerainer a "Wormer-rooner"
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    i know a teensy bit of a lot of languages.. my German is better than my spanish, which is weird because i HAD to take spanish class in school... but i protested by teaching myself German on the side... the only spanish i want to know is Chalupa, Gordita and ... ok sorry... actually a friend of mine who comes from that culture told me the real meanings of those words.. very funny.. unless he was lying.

    ANYWAY....
    so yes like someone else said, i factor in the country of origin, which does help a lot. except for some french words.. Dogue de Bordeaux...  i dont know if i am pronouncing it right or not.. Dog-ew? Dog-oh ? Dog? of course... i should know better considering the other similar words - like vogue... but.. i really have no idea.
    I think its funny when i see people struggle to pronounce Olde English Bulldogge... they some something like "Oldy Bull Doggy , kinda cute lol

    and i thought the Bouvier was dutch? you know.. Flandres - Flanders.. "Dog of Flanders".
     my husband lived in Holland for three years and remembers this breed was a very popular police dog. he and i both would love to own one some day. there are two in the city and both rescues... imported.. haha....
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    i am really bad with dog breeds in general. most of the dog breeds you mensioned, i have never even heard of. not to mension that i have no idea how to pronounce them.. oh well.. at least i can say "american cocker spaniel" in chinese [:D]
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    lol my cousin thinks i make up weird names and pretend they are breeds..... weimeraner.. samoyed... she only knows a handfull of the popular breeds lol
    my biggest problem is proper spelling... my spell check doesnt do dogs..
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    It annoys me when people mispronounce Dachshund.  It is not a "Dotson", "Dashound", or "Dockshound".  It's a Docks hund
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    Well, I speak German quite well, so all the German names actually confuse me a bit, and I'll tell you why. I'm never sure whether it's proper to pronounce them like they are in German or if they've been anglosized or what. Like, Lowchen. I've never heard anyone pronounce it, but I pronounce it like I would if I were speaking German. I knew the word "little lion" before I knew the dog breed, so it seems bizzare to pronounce it any other way. I think most people would say lo-chen. That and the o is supposed to have an umlaut and most people don't bother, which is understandable - HOWEVER... if you can't add the umlaut to a vowel, you're supposed to add an e at the end of it. Lowchen should be Loewchen if you're not going to use the umlaut.

    I'm the same way with Weimaraner and Dachshund. I've actually been to Weimar, so to me, it's just saying "one who is from Weimar". And Dachshund, I just feel like I'm saying "badger dog". So, when someone calls them "dash-hounds" I'm not sure if that's what they're called in North America, or what. I feels wrong to mispronounce them! Also, when I was in high school, we were learning about Weimar and everyone else said "whimer" and I said "vimer" and they all thought I was weird.

    The only one that doesn't seem to bother me is Rottweiler, and I think it's because I knew that word before I could speak German and I've never heard it any other way. Although, I'm still tempted to call German Shepherds "Deutsche Schaeferhund".
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    Dogue de Bordeaux.

     
    doag day bord-o.
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    I'm never sure whether it's proper to pronounce them like they are in German or if they've been anglosized or what


    I usually pronounce a german name the german way and then have to change if it turns out that the standard is to pronounce it differently. Example, I would say "Baton Rouge" in a french manner but the cajuns down there don't pronounce it in a french manner.

    But I would mispeak Keeshond and Shiba Inu. I would pronounce u as "you" when it is "oo". So Keeshond is kays hond, though maybe the original spelling would have been hund, pronounced hoondt. And Shiba Inu is sheba eenoo.

    Even though my maternal grandfather was german and I studied german, I pick a little bit of other languages and I have been known to mispronounce Bichon Frisee on purpose.[sm=devil.gif]
     
    Also, because of my study of languages like german, I tend to pronounce words as if they were german. I would pronounce Samoyed as sam-OI-ed.
     
    Perhaps that is why I can do a halfway decent impression of Klaus Meine.
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    On the dog show, the folks made a concerted effort to say "Sammy-Ed".    And doesn't that sound wrong?