The lighter side of politics....republicans might not like this one

    • Gold Top Dog

    The lighter side of politics....republicans might not like this one

    http://www.palinaspresident.com/

    This is hysterical.  Move your curser around until you get a pointing finger and then click for more fun.

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    okay THIS is funny...LOL. I touched the phone tho, oops...LMBO.

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    Be sure to CLICK on the phone!!

    I laughed my butt off too!  The empty frames on the wall cracked me up!

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    The deer in the closet is JUST wrong tho...lol & poor Katie Couric!

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    I ALMOST missed the front panal of the desk....between the little cupboards.....if you keep clicking on THAT, it does hash marks to tally her "wolf kills".

    Yeah, I know this whole thing is probably disrespectful of someone who might well be sitting in the oval office within a year, but, no less respectful than calling O'Bama's WIFE, the potential First Lady, his "baby momma".

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    Do we need to worry about disrepecting someone who's agreed to appear on SNL tho? I mean..really...she's obviously enjoying the celebrity...it's been a long time since those pageants after all!

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    Great point, Gina

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    I touched the phone, too.

    Someone could always have an Obama page where, when you click on him, he says Bill Ayers will head up Homeland Security. I know that's going to get some heat but I hope others have as good a sense of humor as I do.

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    ron2

    I touched the phone, too.

    Someone could always have an Obama page where, when you click on him, he says Bill Ayers will head up Homeland Security. I know that's going to get some heat but I hope others have as good a sense of humor as I do.

     

    Honestly, I really do not see what the huge to-do is about the whole Bill Ayers thing.  To me, it is a smoke screen.  If the most productive thing that the McCain campaign can come up with in the last weeks before the election is an association to an aging, bomb throwing hippy, and an unlicensed plumber that is cheating on his taxes, then they are in trouble.  If the McCain/Palin plan for America is so fantastic, then sell it to us and cut the Bill Ayers crap....  

    I saw this quote in Time magazine and found it interesting, especially living near Chicago....

    " If Obama's relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others--including Republicans and conservatives--who have embraced Ayers and Dohrn as good company, good citizens, even experts on children's issues. Northwestern created a "family justice" center for Dohrn to run. Ayers is a "distinguished professor" at the University of Illinois. They write Op-Eds and are often quoted in the Tribune, where, if they are identified at all beyond their academic titles, it is usually as "activists" who have never abandoned their noble ideals."

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    ron2

    I touched the phone, too.

    Someone could always have an Obama page where, when you click on him, he says Bill Ayers will head up Homeland Security. I know that's going to get some heat but I hope others have as good a sense of humor as I do.

    If anyone finds another one of these for anyone I'd love to see it .There's plenty of laughs to be had on all sides.

    Tena

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    sillysally

    ron2

    I touched the phone, too.

    Someone could always have an Obama page where, when you click on him, he says Bill Ayers will head up Homeland Security. I know that's going to get some heat but I hope others have as good a sense of humor as I do.

     

    Honestly, I really do not see what the huge to-do is about the whole Bill Ayers thing.  To me, it is a smoke screen.  If the most productive thing that the McCain campaign can come up with in the last weeks before the election is an association to an aging, bomb throwing hippy, and an unlicensed plumber that is cheating on his taxes, then they are in trouble.  If the McCain/Palin plan for America is so fantastic, then sell it to us and cut the Bill Ayers crap....  

    I saw this quote in Time magazine and found it interesting, especially living near Chicago....

    " If Obama's relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others--including Republicans and conservatives--who have embraced Ayers and Dohrn as good company, good citizens, even experts on children's issues. Northwestern created a "family justice" center for Dohrn to run. Ayers is a "distinguished professor" at the University of Illinois. They write Op-Eds and are often quoted in the Tribune, where, if they are identified at all beyond their academic titles, it is usually as "activists" who have never abandoned their noble ideals."

    Silly Sally, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Thank you for sharing this. I think that activist is a perfectly suitable, mostly noble title to assign to someone. This is a wonderful description, and I think that many times, people who call for revolutionary ideas are sometimes a little out there, but usually well meaning.

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    sillysally
    " If Obama's relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others

    I wasn't sure about it but thanks for clarrifying for me. I didn't want to suspect some of you of supporting terrorism just to support Obama but here you are, doing that very thing. Since you can't totally deny the Ayers connection, all you can do is legitimize Ayers and any association with him. And you've proven how one-sided you are. It's okay to blast Palin ( I thought the Palin page was funny) but I can't make one joke about Obama. **content removed, rude/baiting**And that terrorism is not okay, it's not cool.

    sillysally
    McCain campaign can come up with in the last weeks before the election is an association to an aging, bomb throwing hippy

    That's unrepentant domestic terrorist. He bombed the Pentagon and several installations of the New York City Police Dept. It's not romantic, it's terrorism. In case you didn't know, that's where innocent people die because someone didn't have the patience to get their point across the legitimate way.

    sillysally
    an unlicensed plumber that is cheating on his taxes,

    And where does that come from? The guy simply didn't agree with His Majesty Obama's plan.

    Or should I leave you to your king, who's crap doesn't stink?

    **content removed, rude/baiting**

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     Ron, why are you being so condescending? I find it offensive.

    If you're curious, here's the news on "Joe the Plumber":

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/us/politics/17joe.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=joe%20the%20plumber&st=cse&oref=slogin

    "Thomas Joseph, the business manager of Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics, based in Toledo, said Thursday that Mr. Wurzelbacher had never held a plumber’s license, which is required in Toledo and several surrounding municipalities. He also never completed an apprenticeship and does not belong to the plumber’s union, which has endorsed Mr. Obama. On Thursday, he acknowledged that he does plumbing work even though he does not have a license.

    His full name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher. And he owes back taxes, too, public records show. The premise of his complaint to Mr. Obama about taxes may also be flawed, according to tax analysts. Contrary to what Mr. Wurzelbacher asserted and Mr. McCain echoed, neither his personal taxes nor those of the business where he works are likely to rise if Mr. Obama’s tax plan were to go into effect, they said."

    If you don't like the New York Times, here's another article from Fox News:

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/feeling-plumber-fatigue-media-turns-joe/

    All the "Joe the Plumber" debacle says to me is that the McCain campaign is not good at looking before they leap, which I feel was/is also true about the Bush administration, and is something that greatly disturbs me about anyone in a position of leadership. Personally, I feel a lack of fact-checking and lack of foresight were what pulled us into Iraq, and I felt very strongly then (as I do now) that the Iraq war was a big mistake. I DO NOT WANT a President who doesn't think things through and do his research before making big decisions (such as whom to pick as VP, or whom to higlight in the national media). JMO, doesn't mean others have to agree. Wink

     

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    Fair enough, Cita. Let's say that Joe the Plumber is a poor example.

    Let's try Ron the Electrician. I do have a master electrician license from the Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation and I have a Master/Contractor license from the city of Sherman, Texas. ( A number of us keep at least one city license in case the state license didn't work out.) I work for a private sub-contractor, an electrical construction company and we do contract work for general contractors such as Pogue, Charter, etc. In Texas, we do not have a strong union presence. I am non-union, so my pay is lower than what it could be and what it would be if I lived in New York. OTOH, cost of living is lower here. Gas has dropped to $2.45/gal locally, which is almost affordable. Wth my little car, it is. $13 gets me half a tank and I like that a lot. But most people in regular jobs here make between 6 and 12 and hour. I make considerably more than that but I have decades of experience in electrical work and the biggest license there is. For my position, I making what I can make, which is considered top journeyman pay, even though I am a master electrician. I'm netting less than $35k a year. And I what I do make is spent already. I still owe income tax from last year (messed up by the previous company I was at), still owe property taxes, I am paying a car note. Regular bills, including insurance and utilities. I pay DW for the med and dental insurance they take out of her check plus a little extra to help her pay for her car note. I'm not going hungry but finances are tight, to say the least.

    So, I'm nowhere hear being worth $250k, let alone clearing a net profit of $250k (which I do not see as a clarification in Obama's plan) and therefore, according to a politician's promise, I would be safe, at least for now. But what if they lowered that. Which can and will happen if they think they need to raise tax revenue. What if they decided that anyone making over $25k could afford a tax increase?

    Granted, I understand the frustration that it seems that wealthy people have more tax shelters at their disposal and even on a flat tax, the millionaire can afford it better than the $1,000 a month person. But you don't have to raise taxes. You need to just collect the taxes owed. And we have so many undocumented workers in this country not paying taxes.

    But what can stimulate an economy is lower taxes. If the taxes are lower, people have more discretionary income to spend on goods and services which keep others employed, including licensed tradesmen.

    If your tax bill is lowered by a thousand dollars and you need a new AC for the house, you can afford to hire an HVAC tech to install the equip and hire an electrician to provide the wiring and branch to connection hook-up. Now, you've just contributed to your local economy. To different families now have some earned income they can spend at your dentist office, grocery store, or even some money to donate to their local animal shelter. Or the money can go to the govt who will spend it on the war that no one likes.

    BTW, thanks for being civil and answering thoughtfully.

     

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    ron2

    sillysally
    " If Obama's relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others

    I wasn't sure about it but thanks for clarrifying for me. I didn't want to suspect some of you of supporting terrorism just to support Obama but here you are, doing that very thing. Since you can't totally deny the Ayers connection, all you can do is legitimize Ayers and any association with him. And you've proven how one-sided you are. It's okay to blast Palin ( I thought the Palin page was funny) but I can't make one joke about Obama. I hope, one day, you will grow up into an adult and see how funny this is from different sides. And that terrorism is not okay, it's not cool.

     

     
    I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so nasty.  I don't know how to separate the quotes on here so I will answer each point individually.

    First of all, I am *not* one sided on this.  In fact, going into this, I was going to vote for McCain.  I like McCain.  Around convention time I was not sure who I was voting for, but the Palin selection sealed the deal for me.  I do not like Palin's politics at all, she rubs me the wrong way, the idea of her become president at some point horrifies me, and I will not make any apologies for that.  Therefore, for the first time ever I am voting for a Democrat.

    I don't see how the quote I cited suggests that I am OK with what Bill Ayers did.  He is not likely someone I would be friends with.  However, I doubt that I would want to be friends with a number of people that any politician comes into contact with. 

    Sorry, but I am not a fan of guilt by association.  Just because you are linked to someone somehow does not mean that you share their ideals.  An employee of Louis Farrakhan used to board her horse at the barn that I worked.  Once his family came out to the barn to ride and I had a nice conversation with his mother.  I do not believe in what Farrakhan stands for.  However, I saddled the horses for his family, signed them up for the ride, and took their money.  I'm sure that part of my pay check came from their ride.  My horse ate food at the barn that was partially paid for by their ride.  I benefited from their patrionage of the business I worked for.  Does that mean that I therefore support what they stand for?

    Another example would Strom Thurmond.  Thurmond is pretty much known for his vigorous support of segregation, As evidenced by this lovely quote, "All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches."  I looked and looked, and did not see anywhere that mentioned that he was particularly sorry for his hateful remarks and political actions.  Does that mean that every Republican who worked with him, knowing full well what he had said during those times, is a supporter of racism?