Is anyone else broke right now?

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm broke too....Sad....

    Jeremy and I have no kids, just Apollo and a couple cats, and it seems like we're always living paycheck to paycheck. When we first moved in together everything was straight finance wise, but after about a year that went South. He has a good job too (marine engineer), and I work for myself (dog walker/sitter)...student loans, mortgage, insurance, cars, gas, heat, cable, groceries, CREDIT CARDS....the list goes on and on...sometimes we just feel trapped in debt with no way out. Jeremy got a raise at work and the same week my truck broke. We just paid $700 to have my truck fixed, I wanted to cry.

    I'm hoping for better times for everyone!

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    At this point we're having to be careful, but no where near as broke as I have been in the past (with my ex we were literally always one inch from losing the house and going onto the street). 

    but practical stuff?  Man, I can tell you tons ...

    1.  I'm a legal secretary and honestly we do *some* foreclosure work.  Not much but I can tell you this much -- if you know you're going to be "late" on a payment (whether it's mortgage, credit, utilities or whatever) -- call and TALK to them.  This is vital ... most companies will give you an extension (usually 2 a year) but be REAL and then be unbelievably prompt.  It won't hurt your credit unless you break a 'payment promise' -- that's like the unpardonable sin. 

    I have seen people call a second time and say "I just can't KEEP that promise ... can you work with me?" and usually they do.  It costs MONEY to foreclose and the government is getting tighter, so if I company can work with you they will.  It's embarassing as heck ... BUT it makes you look good to call them *in advance* and say "I can't have it to you on the 1st, but I can on the 15th and then next months on the 7th" (or whatever.  But don't forget to think about next month.

    2.  This is gonna be a cruel blast for some of you ... but we've gotten to the point as a society that we think we aren't in 'debt' if we can make our payments.  Nope -- if you have a mortgage, if you have a car payment, if you have credit card payments YOU ARE ***IN*** DEBT.  That's the defnition of it. 

    That's not 'bad' -- that's simply calling a spade a spade.  BUT that means you have to manage that debt. 

    The retail and credit industry have encouraged us to pay credit with credit -- and those of us who have been around the block 8 or 9 times know that will eventually bite you in the butt.  So frankly, don't do it.  Even if it makes life easier *don't* because the day CAN come when you lose that job or some huge problem erupts and what was manageable before isn't now. 

    I'm not 'preaching' at anyone, but it's my sincere hope that a lot of folks are going to wake up and get real.  Economic times have been wonderful for a long time -- altho a lot of us have had a hard time for a LONG time.  But frankly ... it *can* get worse.  Doing extra things to save money is intelligent.  And I do mean SAVE ... even if you are broke, you honestly can still save money.

    3.  How to save? 

    a.  Change -- if you haven't already start a change jar, or piggy bank.  Sooo maybe you need quarters for toll or machines at work... BUT how about pennies, or nickels? 

    You don't have to put them thru change machines that cost money -- you can roll them for free -- ask at the bank and they'll give you coin wrappers.  It's a p.i.t.a. but if you do it while you're watching TV or waiting for something it's easy. 

    b.  Have a garage sale -- or see if a bunch of you in an apartment can get together and have one -- even if you only charge a nickle or dime for stuff, you'll be amazed what you can sell or trade that you can scrape up some change.  Craigslist is great and can help -- but there's nothing like a garage sale for money in your pocket.  It's saved my butt more times than I want to admit.

    c.  Consignment shops -- for buying AND selling clothes -- can really help.

    3.  Part time work.  Man this was always my favorite.  There have been times in my history when I worked 3, 4 and 5 jobs at a time.  Like hobbys?  Make candles, soap, specialty baskets (especially for those of you who are thrifty or great shoppers) and SELL them.  You don't have to start big -- find a neighbor having a garage sale and ask if you can set up a table next to hers, is there a farmer's market in town?  Find out how much a table costs.

    One of my FAVORITE jobs when I was single was working temp.  I used to work at grocery stores (often they'll do this and pay CASH for 3-4 hours of work on a Saturday) passing out whatever the 'special' was -- I've handed out popcorn, strawberries, cheese potato chips (ugh - I will never eat those again). 

    I would sign up at temp agencies to work nights and weekends!  (clear it with your regular job first)  Usually a 3-6 week course will give you a certificate so you can work as a home health care aide  -- I used to babysit old ladies and old men at night.  Often my dog could go with me (one of the places I learned to LOVE pet therapy to be honest) -- but I could sleep there and take care of Mrs. Whoever at darned decent money and all I had to do was help her to the toilet (or empty a bedpan) or maybe make her breakfast.  You don't have to be a nurse -- often it was just 3-4 hours between shifts.  Doesn't need to be your life's work -- but it's fast work, and in some areas you don't need the certificate. 

    In short -- sometimes you can do amazingly weird things and get paid for it.  If you're willing.  One time (no joke - this is TRUE) I worked for three weeks when I was out of work for a temp agency ***pushing ONE button***. 

    So serious -- it was a company who was trying to develop a coating for keys for a deli weigh scale and they wanted to know how 'long' the new coating would last.  It started out that they had 6 of us pushing ONE button  (6 little 'counter' machines) and eventually the only one who tried to actually push the button as many times as she could was *me*.  (rolling my eyes -- how did THAT look on a resume?? *grin*).  One day I pushed my little button over 10,000 times.  They made me 'rest' 15 minutes out of every hour, I could READ while I pushed, etc.  Whatta joke, but dang -- I made my rent payment that month LOL. 

    No, it wasn't teaching, it wasn't secretarial but it WAS money.  And it makes for a darned good story NOW.  LOL  It didn't kill me ... it wasn't fun, but it was better than not working. 

    A part-time job doesn't have to be forever -- and it doesn't have to be something you like.  And sometimes the only way you find them is asking for them. 

    Some of you are moms -- so think of anything you *can* do and then think how to make money at it.  Washing and waxing cars?  You could do that while the kids are asleep ... can you crochet?  Make potholders (and cut up scraps of fabric that are stained shirts or ragged stuff and use THAT to crochet with and then sell them for not much -- time you would otherwise spend watching tv?  do something with your hands that you can sell).  Shoot -- I've sold stupid potholders TONS of times.  OR I've given them as gifts!!

    4.  If you don't need a part-time job (maybe things aren't that bad yet) -- then what can you do now to save money later?  Sooooo you don't have to sell potholders, but how about making some and toss them in a box and give them as gifts at Christmas.  It's a few more things under the tree for cheap -- saving money that you might otherwise have to spend later.

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    So if you've survived to here (yeah, I know folks but this is ME and I'm NEVER brief!!!!) the moral of this is BETTER DAYS ***ARE*** COMING. 

    But when they do ... you honestly will be changed.  You'll never look at money the same way again.  When you've been unemployed (Dumdog I've BEEN There ... ohhhhh so many times ... you ROCK lady!!!  You're doing it SO well and I admire you!!) or your spouse is -- you do what you gotta do.  

    Back when I was in my 'broke' days I used to start IN JUNE trying to figure out what I could make for cheap that I could give *with pride* at Christmas.  I did far more handwork than I really wanted to -- because it was something I could be proud of to give. 

    One year I made pillows for friends.  I cut up scraps and sewed them together as patchwork, and then I stuffed the pillows with DRYER lint!!  It was free.  Then ... *grin* ... I sold a couple!! 

    You don't have to be handy.  Just be creative.   

    Some of you talking about dog walking -- how about that professional lady down the street with the long-coated dog.  TALK to her -- maybe you're not a groomer but you could offer to BRUSH her dog out for her a couple of times a week.  You don't have to do it as a business (taxes, withholding, etc.) but you could offer to do it either as a barter (maybe she IS an accountant and you could use financial advice, or maybe you could trade dog service with the beautician up the street for a hair cut -- talk to people you DO patronize).

    5.  None of this is going to make you rich -- but it can help get you thru.  But I can tell you for sure ... I've been unbelievably poor.  But I've survived it BETTER for it. 

    I have weird habits now -- I "stash" money.  If I find $5 in a pants pocket that I washed, I hide it.  Under something in the top drawer in the bathroom.  In my jewelery case ... anyplace that I will remember it LATER.  And a few times, man, I've needed money so bad I went thru the house and stripped every hiding place I had.  ONE time I got $100 that way that saw me thru a dire emergency.  Guess what -- I'm STILL hiding money!

    If I get laid off -- the first thing I do is go buy something new for an interview and the next thing I do is go for groceries.  THEN I can breathe!  The dogs and I may eat rice, but we'll eat.  Phew. 

    I wish I could make it easy on all of you -- but honestly I don't regret any of the hard times I've had (well, the idiot ex?  HE is a regret and he was to blame for a lot of the hard times, but ... I digress *grin*). 

    Sorry this was long -- but saving money?  Dang .. I wish I wasn't so darned *good* at it.  No ... I wish I wasn't so EXPERIENCED at it.  *sigh*. 

    I typed for free -- if even one tiny small idea here helps anyone .. it was worth it.  Otherwise ... hopefully you aren't paying per minute for your connection so hopefully it didn't cost you to read this and get bored!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Great advice Callie.  I haven't had a paycheck since January (graduated w/ a Master's in Dec.) and I've been job hunting since October.  I was really starting to sweat this last month, but I finally got a break this last week when I managed to get a temporary part-time (almost full time) job for a couple of months.  Most of the part-time jobs in stores like Walmart and Payless that I've applied to never even got back to me.  I'd also feel bad taking a job that I actually care about because if I got a call from a "real job" I'd be off like a prom dress.  But with this job I've got a little more time now before I have to do something drastic.  I've been so worried lately. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Ugh, don't get me started on money issues.  Confused 

    • Gold Top Dog

    swamper
    Most of the part-time jobs in stores like Walmart and Payless that I've applied to never even got back to me.  I'd also feel bad taking a job that I actually care about because if I got a call from a "real job" I'd be off like a prom dress. 

    It's a fact that it's easier to GET a job when you HAVE a job.  That sounds like an oxymoron but it's true.  So even if you are flipping burgers it's better than nothing.

    Don't wait for them to get back TO you.  One time many years ago I was working as an assistant to this guy who was advertising for some other position -- and he told me he wanted to know everyone who called.  "Even if we're still days form making a decision I want to know if someone calls back to 'thank me' for an interview or to find out if we've made a decision - I'd rather hire someone INTERESTED in this job than someone who is too cool to let me know they're interested." 

    Quitting a part time job with thanks isn't a bad thing -- tell them they saved your bacon ... it leaves you looking like a champ and trust me -- they'll be able to hire someone else and if you ever need a part time job again you can probably go back as long as you were honest.  If they know you just got your masters they probably know you aren't staying forever.  And Wal-mart may hire you if they think you'll give them a few months of problem free work or maybe are interested in "part time" AFTER you get hired on somewhere just cos you have a school bill TO PAY.

     

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    great advice, callie (as always...)

    me, i'm not doing great, since the office i  work at is new and is having some cash flow issues due to a delayed project. so i'm not getting paid on time or fully. but my rent is paid for the rest of the year and i'm living cheap (riding my bike a LOT) so it's not a problem yet.

    it will be, if we go under, though... :(

    • Gold Top Dog

     Another thing about Walmart, if you work there during the summer(for those of you who are students and need summer jobs) they will hire you back as Christmas help, since they have to hire alot of people during that time and would rather hire back students instead of people that need permanent jobs.  Its less dicision making at the end of the season as to who to keep and who to let go. 

    Callie, if I was you and I needed extra money I would write a column for a newspaper to give people advice.  I love your posts and I get a certain sense of relief when I see you reply to one of my threads.  Your voice on the phone makes me feel better too.  Is there anything you don't know?  And honestly, why don't you have a website?  

    I think I'm gonna make some soap.

    • Gold Top Dog
    ME! I'm broke! I guess I'm a college student so I'm SUPPOSED to be broke, but it still stinks. I work 40+ hours a week, usually, and payday is more like 'pay the bills day'. I have ONE credit card with Pi's stuff on it, (around $150 worth?) and his Care Credit to pay off (with a charming 28% interest...sigh) plus normal life bills.

    Lately I've been skimming 10 or 20 percent off of the top of my paycheck and plopping it into my savings account straight away. It's not MUCH, not anymore than BF and I would spend in a night eating out and renting a movie, so we just stay home and have leftovers and watch reruns instead. It really bugged me the first couple times, but since it goes into my savings right when I deposit my paycheck I don't miss it as much.

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    sl2crmeg
    I work 40+ hours a week, usually, and payday is more like 'pay the bills day'.

     

    At my old job we used to call payday "exchange day". We got paid in exchange for our work there, but we paid our bills in exchange for having water, gas, electric, a car, etc.....it always sucked because most of us lived paycheck to paycheck...

    I really like selling stuff on ebay for extra cash, but I just think its ridiculous that they charge the listing fee per item, then once it sells they take another cut of your money, and then paypal takes some too for you using the service...so I piled all the clothes I would like to sell and put an ad on craigslist, hopefully someone is interested!! 

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    • Gold Top Dog

    sl2crmeg
    and his Care Credit to pay off (with a charming 28% interest...sigh)

     

    Just an idea - keep your eye out for those offers from your credit card for free balance transfer - typically they offer no interest for 6 mos then move it to another.  You have to keep track but loosing the interest helps tremendously.  Suddenly your payments are eating into your debt instead of just maintaining it.

    Obviously only use legit banks/cards not these emails that some get.  You might even call your credit card company and see if they will do it for you. 

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    kpwlee

    sl2crmeg
    and his Care Credit to pay off (with a charming 28% interest...sigh)

     

    Just an idea - keep your eye out for those offers from your credit card for free balance transfer - typically they offer no interest for 6 mos then move it to another.  You have to keep track but loosing the interest helps tremendously.  Suddenly your payments are eating into your debt instead of just maintaining it.

    Obviously only use legit banks/cards not these emails that some get.  You might even call your credit card company and see if they will do it for you. 

    Care Credit can't be transfered to another card *sigh*. My mom loaned me $1,000 to pay off some of it but the rest is still there. I pay way over the minimum payment every month tho so hopefully some of the actual charge is getting paid off.

     LOL, I just stopped and added up what I pay for Pirate. $50 back to my mom, $50 to Care Credit, $50 for meds... :) That's not even FOOD.

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    *laughing* -- try typing critturs dot com and see where you land, lady! LOL  Now all I gotta do is get time to update it like I should.  *sigh*

    I don't have any kids of my own ... so adopting you lot isn't a bad thing.  And trust me -- I've been there done THAT sooooooo much with finances SOMEBUDDY might as well take advantage of all the screwups I've made!!! LOL

    • Gold Top Dog

    Ugh... how about - who isn't broke?

    They cut my hours at work... so I'm trying to get another pt job - but they keep changing my days off! grrr. I've been doing a lot more dog sitting $15/night for 1-2 dogs $30/night for 3+. Not bad money when you add it all up.

    I'll be sitting for like the first half of May - so that will help some....

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     I found it!  I really really did!  I've been there for the last half hour and I don't think I'll leave!  I've never heard a Foxy story from her point of view before!  Love it!  "He needs his own Sheltie..."  Perfect!  Love it! 

    Going back to Critturs.com!

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     19/20 on the quiz!!!!