What is so special about this collar?

    • Gold Top Dog

    HHHmmm? She already knew these commands? But only acts up when wearing her regular collar? Collar savvy?

    No hun, what that tells me that you are allowing her to act up when she is on her regular collar. Something in your body language or your amount of tension changes when you dont have the halti.....what could it be?

    If I may.....do you allow her to walk out ahead of you with the halti becasue she cant pull as hard? If so that may be where your going wrong. Your not bothered by her pulling because its not as bad as when she is on her regualr collar. So when she does put her regular collar on and walks out ahead of you, you can really feel the pull.

    I may be completely wrong but if thats the case you need to re-work with her on loose leash walking. The halti is a tool that helps ease the pull SO you can teach her heel and loose leash walking. A lot of people throw the halti on, think "oh this is so much better" even though the dog is still walking out infront, lol!

    • Gold Top Dog

     She doesn't walk in front of me unless she's off to the side doing her business. When we're walking down the street, she's always beside me on a loose leash.

    As far as I know, when I switch the leash over, I don't change anything, I still keep the leash loose and my pace the same. My body language is the same as well. But as soon as that leash clip snaps, she lunges forward like there's a fire under her tail...

    I was told that too by the pet store owner, about people just throwing it on and thinking "There, that should fix it!" so I made sure I did training with it.

    Over all I don't mind using it, it's just she looks so pathetic when I put it on her.. Lol. And I don't like using tools. She's the first dog I've had to use tools so it's something new for me.. 

    • Bronze

    I use martingale collars for 2 reasons:  I am lazy and my PON's neck and head are roughly the same size!  My dogs only wear collars while leased or in transit (car or RV).  It's easier for me just to push the martingale over their heads than to buckle/unbuckle.  Also, when my PON was about 8 mos. old I stopped on I-75 at the GA/FL border at a rest area.  I opened crates and leashed all dogs (they were wearing buckle collars).  Imagine my HORROR when the silly 8 mos. old PON backed out of her properly fitted collar and was standing next to the interstate....free as a bird.  Thank goodness she loves the rest of her pack and I quickly made happy let's go talk and took the crew in the opposite direction down a bit of a hill.  She followed and when she was close enough, I tackled her....planting my knee firmly in some poop some other idiot hadn't cleaned up...blech!  I didn't care and the first thing I did was buy everyone a martingale.  They take less time to put on everyone and the PON can't pull out.

     That said, I never used them for training, etc.  Most of my dogs are naked when they're learning to heel anyway.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Well Orange...I am as perplexed as you!

    Hopefully someone else will be along with some more suggestions. In the meantime keep at it. Maybe switch to her flat collar at the end of the walk when she is tired and praise her for being a good girl. Anne.....Glenda? HELP, lol!

    • Gold Top Dog

    I use a martingale collar because a) they look incredible on sighthounds and b) they're very difficult to slip, when adjusted properly. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    We recently got one for Apollo, I just got a cheap one ($10) at Petsmart to see how I liked it before ordering a fancy one ($31) online. He has a history of backing out of his collar. I have to say I loved it. He didn't try to get out of his collar, but I felt more secure with it on him compared to a flat collar.

    • Gold Top Dog

    AuroraLove

    Well Orange...I am as perplexed as you!

    Hopefully someone else will be along with some more suggestions. In the meantime keep at it. Maybe switch to her flat collar at the end of the walk when she is tired and praise her for being a good girl. Anne.....Glenda? HELP, lol!


    I'm not Anne or Glenda, but I have the same problem with my dog Coke, just on a different tool.  With him in an Easy Walk and Kenya in ANY collar, I can walk them both at heel (both on left, Kenya on the inside since she is trained for a formal heel), both on 4ft leashes doubled over in my hand, held with one hand down at my side.  Switch to the flat and PULL PULL PULL.  I've attributed this to the fact that I haven't done enough actual training of what "heel" means and I've relied on the Easy Walk because it is self-correcting.  Heel is not just staying at the human's side while walking, but focusing on the human (looking at) and automatically adjusting to the human's changes in pace and direction.  Coke is IN heel on the Easy Walk, but he is sort of in limbo b/c we are walking together as a pack.  He tends to look straight ahead and it seems he is more in tune with Kenya's pace than my own.  Since we haven't had him long and our winter arctic weather is barely breaking yet, I haven't done any work with a formal heel.  When I did this with Kenya I focused more on teaching her a "watch" command so that she would make eye contact and learn to focus on me without me having to command or correct her into the right position. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Liesje
    That will depend on how it fits the dog.  I adjust Kenya's martingales after I put them on so they are not loose. 

    The fit is important with a martingale, but so is the dog's coat.  The smooth, short coat of a Basenji makes it unlikely that the D-ring of a martingale will stay behind the neck when the leash is removed.  That would require that the front of the collar be heavier than the D-ring portion.  Since many people attach tags to the D-ring, that helps the collar to slide around until the D-ring is at the bottom.

    The first time I needed to use a martingale, I discovered the hard way that I needed to open the martingale enclosure as wide as possible when I removed the leash.  The martingale was a cheap greyhound collar from PetSmart which wound up in several pieces.  The Basenji decided that the necktie portion was great to chew on.

    • Gold Top Dog

    AuroraLove

    Well Orange...I am as perplexed as you!

    Hopefully someone else will be along with some more suggestions. In the meantime keep at it. Maybe switch to her flat collar at the end of the walk when she is tired and praise her for being a good girl. Anne.....Glenda? HELP, lol!

     

    Well now I know I'm not the only one was confused by my dog.. Lol!

    I've tried switching it at the end of the walk also. No matter how long the walk is, as soon as I switch it over. It's like she got into a ball of speed or crack or SOMETHING.. and off she goes! Lol.

    I tried the easy walk harness as well with Maze. My problem with that was Maze has an abnormally shaped chest so it wouldn't fit properly..Lol. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Emma wears them, because she backs out of collars. Her head is bigger than her neck, but not by much. It's such a small amount that I'd have to fit a regular collar REALLY snug to make it non-slippable, and it'd be uncomfortable. A martingale fits loosely, until it's pulled on. It's comfier for her, and more safe. She has several, in different designs, colors, and materials. Teenie wore them, too. They were the ONLY thing she couldn't slip out of.

     

    Emma is reliable off lead, but if there's a lead on her, there's a reason for it, and she can slip it without even trying. I feel much more safe with the martingales.

     

    As for your leash walking problem, have somebody video tape you. I bet you're doing *something* different. It may be some tiny, nit picky thing, but Maze is picking up on it. Dogs are annoying like that;) 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Dang dogs for being so sensitive to stuff that like! Lol. I'll to borrow a friend video camera but if it's help with her leash walking then I'll get all the advice I can get! 

    • Gold Top Dog

    It helps me A LOT to look at video of me handling Emma. I don't have a video camera but several of my dog-nerd friends do, and are more than happy to tape us and email the videos to me. Works out great. 

    • Gold Top Dog

     We're considering buying our friend's old camera so this gives me an excuse to try it out before I pay for it..Devil

    • Gold Top Dog

    I used a martingale on Casey when I first got him. He was not leashed trained - and backed out of flat collars. After a bit of work - and an easy walk harness - we can walk on a flat collar. I still prefer to use a harness for long walks, but if it's just a quick potty walk, or something like that, we use a flat collar.

    What helped most when getting Casey to walk nicely on a collar was double leashing him. I clipped one to his harness, and one to his collar. I kept the one of the collar a bit tighter than the harness, but he didn't pull because he was still attached at the harness.

    Just a thought though. You could try it. If nothing else, it will give you more control over her until she learns.

    • Gold Top Dog

    i like the MG collars emiley wears one and when boomer gets big enough he will wear one to.

    i had a heck of a time teaching emiley to walk she would throw her self about, pull fuss and chew. so what i started doing is put her in the collar, give her the sit command then start walking forward and say lets go, if she jumped forward or tried to pull i would stop wait for her to calm down put her in a sit and repeat yes this takes forever to get a walk done but the dog will learn im not going anywhere unless i act like im suppose to. thats all i go that might help. also try when the dog starts pulling to turn right around and say heel and walk in the other direction.