This sounds too good to be true...

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    This sounds too good to be true...

     http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/24/economic.stimulus/index.html

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- American taxpayers would get checks of several hundred dollars from the government under a plan to stimulate the economy, sources said Thursday.

    Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is the administration's point person for the economic stimulus plan.

    Congressional leaders of both parties were talking with their membership to sell the plan, sources said.

    Sources on Capitol Hill and at the Treasury Department said congressional and White House negotiators agreed upon checks of $600 per individual and $1,200 per couple.

    A Democratic aide and Republican aide said there will be an additional amount per child, which could be in the neighborhood of $300.

    Checks could be in taxpayers' mailboxes by June, according to an Associated Press report.

    The Treasury Department still must analyze the numbers to determine the price tag of the stimulus package, sources said.

    To get to the agreement, Democrats dropped calls for increases in food stamps and an extension of unemployment compensation. Republicans agreed to allow people who pay Social Security taxes but not income taxes to get the checks, sources said.

    An announcement on the plan could come Thursday afternoon, the two sources said.

    Aides in both parties said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has been working aggressively in recent days as he tries to make progress before House Republicans head out of Washington for a legislative retreat at the end of the week.

    To win over conservatives, the package also is slated to include business tax breaks, according to officials in both parties.

    The stimulus package may face resistance from fiscal conservatives in both parties over worries that it would increase the federal debt. The talks are occurring as auditors report that the federal deficit -- the difference between what the government takes in and what it spends -- is increasing.

    The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated Wednesday the deficit would jump to $250 billion, mainly because of a weakening economy. That estimate does not include any additional spending that would be part of a stimulus package.

    The proposal is intended to address economic worries stemming from a worldwide credit crunch created by the mortgage crisis and plunging stock markets. The president proposed the package last week.

    Officials in both parties credited Paulson, the former Goldman Sachs executive known for a shrewd grasp of the markets, with pushing the package aggressively.

    "He's been on the phone with practically every member of Congress -- some of them a few times," one Senate Republican aide said. "He's not fooling around."

     

    If this is true we are getting a Wii and my new camera, lol. 

     

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    They did the rebate check thing before I remember...so I wouldn't be shocked. I won't spend mine tho...it would go to debt payoff so...not doing much for the economy LOL.

    ETA: $300 per kid...too bad I can't squeeze in (out?) another before June haha!

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    I definitely think we'll see it and if people go out and spend it, that'll be great. I'd like a new leather couch Big Smile

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    rwbeagles

    They did the rebate check thing before I remember...so I wouldn't be shocked. I won't spend mine tho...it would go to debt payoff so...not doing much for the economy LOL.

     

    Yeah you're right, I just remembered that. 

    Besides 100K in student debt, we currently have less than $100 on our credit card so we're OK there.  I refuse to use gifts and stuff like this on my student loans because it doesn't even make a dent and just makes me more depressed.  I'd rather have a little fun with the money and keep paying my monthly bills (which at this point I don't have a problem paying, $400-$600/mo total) than put it all into my student loans, still feel broke, and still be paying off those loans for the next few decades.  I really need a new camera b/c I'm supposed to photograph my sis-in-law's wedding in August.  We also have bald tires which have needed to be replaced since Sept and won't be replaced unless money falls from the sky.  Kenya needs to go to the vet again for her foot, which will put a lot more on the credit card...  Oh, the possibilities....

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    Liesje
    White House negotiators agreed upon checks of $600 per individual and $1,200 per couple.

     

    I'm sure it will happen, I'm just not sure how much good it's going to do... But somebody's doing the math... Let's see, $600 per individual, times 2.... (divided by... carry the 4... allow for the exponential of ... yes.. yes...) That's $1200 per couple!  LOL

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    Here are some more tenative details from another article

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080124/pl_nm/usa_economy_stimulus_dc

    individuals would get a maximum rebate of $600 and married couples could get up to $1,200. Individuals with annual incomes above $75,000 in adjusted gross income (AGI) or married couples making $150,000 in AGI would get less depending how high their incomes are above those thresholds.

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    The White House cautioned that nothing was final yet. 

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    Low-income wage earners who made at least $3,000 last year and paid no income taxes would be eligible for a check from the government of up to $300 for individuals and up to $600 for married couples, according to the aide.

    They also would get an additional $300 per child.

     

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    timsdat

    Low-income wage earners who made at least $3,000 last year and paid no income taxes would be eligible for a check from the government of up to $300 for individuals and up to $600 for married couples, according to the aide.

    They also would get an additional $300 per child.

    I knew they'd added a piece for people who'd pay no taxes, but I hadn't seen the "$300 per child" part. That just seems a bit over-the-top to me but maybe I'm biased because I don't have kids.

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    Liesje

    Republicans agreed to allow people who pay Social Security taxes but not income taxes to get the checks, sources said.

     

    This part confuzzles me. Is it only these people? Who doesn't pay income taxes? How do I become one of those people? Big Smile 

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    People who don't work? LOL.

    Wesley Snipes?

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    timsdat
    Low-income wage earners who made at least $3,000 last year and paid no income taxes would be eligible for a check from the government of up to $300 for individuals and up to $600 for married couples, according to the aide.

    Why would they give money to people who don't pay taxes? I thought it was a "tax cut" of sorts?

    I'm not really complaining..It seems I might qualify for that..but how do they know to send you a check if you don't pay income tax?

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    chelsea_b
    I'm not really complaining..It seems I might qualify for that..but how do they know to send you a check if you don't pay income tax?

    It is not that they don't pay taxes it is that they get back everything they paid in and sometimes more at the end of the year.  Taxes are withheld from everyone's check if you net income exceeds the exemptions claimed.  Remember earned income credit factors in to whether someone pays a net amount of taxes.

     

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    timsdat
    It is not that they don't pay taxes it is that they get back everything they paid in and sometimes more at the end of the year.  Taxes are withheld from everyone's check if you net income exceeds the exemptions claimed. 

    But what if taxes WEREN'T withheld, and the IRS says you make too little to file a tax return (their minimum is $8750, I made like ~$7500)... I thought I shouldn't be filing at all, is that not true? Hmm

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    chelsea_b
    But what if taxes WEREN'T withheld, and the IRS says you make too little to file a tax return (their minimum is $8750, I made like ~$7500)... I thought I shouldn't be filing at all, is that not true? Hmm

    Payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare) are still paid and a report is sent to the government stating that no taxes were withheld from your paycheck!

     

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    Here is what I think really sucks!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy_stimulus;_ylt=ApoZkcYqiNOAkbXWOmCI6FmyFz4D

    The rebates would phase out gradually for individuals whose income exceeds $75,000 and couples with incomes above $150,000, aides said. Individuals with incomes up to $87,000 and couples up to $174,000 would get partial rebates. The caps are higher for those with children.

    So basically the rebate isn't for everyone who pays taxes only some people and some people who don't pay taxes will get a tax rebate!!

     

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    Actually Bush all ready did this... but everyone complained...

    Probably b/c they did it based on tax bracket (which sounds pretty darn fair to me!)

    The more money you make, the more they take. So if you were in the higher tax bracket they did this and sent a huge check in the mail. My dad was freaking out with JOY! He complains about taxes all the time. As he should, its his hard earned money from his hard working company.

    If they are going to do it for everyone now well heck yes! haha can't wait

    going to read this article more/forward it to my dad. he'll explain it better to me... i swear that man knows everything... haha!