falsely accused of bite! what now????

    • Gold Top Dog

    falsely accused of bite! what now????

    well, it only took the yuppies one week to run me out of "their dog park".... i was there later in the afternoon than usual because of some errands, and we were playing just find with everyone.  this guy came (who was also there yesterday and his dog caused a fight) with 2 dogs (maybe herders- not sure).  both females, one on a leash.  he did the same thing yesterday:  one *very* aggressive female on a choke lead, another slightly less free- no collars, no tags.  at no time did he issue them any commands.  rosie and tek went to investigate, and i called them back.  they came.  everything was fine, they were nowhere near this guy.  then the owner of the park (it's privately funded) came along and asked if i had control.  i was like, what??? i issued a sit, stay and held it for about 3 minutes (goood dogs) before releasing- the guy saw it and said, "bravo" that was great!  about 2 minutes later this lady shows up with 4 dogs and two young children.  2 of the dogs were really poorly behaved poms, screeching and nipping everyone!  she gave me an attitude about my dogs before she got in the door and then freaked out when tek was running with her intact male, saying, "he's attacking!!!'' tek was about 3 feet from this dog in a play bow when they weren't chasing around.  so i offered to leave, and she (rudely) says, "please do".... at this point i lost my temper and told her that her dogs were about as poorly trained as i'd ever seen and lifting a yappy dog off the ground "out of harm's way" is hardly a training method.  she told me to get f***ked and i told her the same and i left.  dude with aggressive females was still there.
     
    well, i felt bad about griping in front of the kids, so i went back alone and apologized to her and her kids for making a scene, at which point she accused tek of biting the GUY!!!!
     
    guy never said anything to me, and i know it's not true.  tek was NEVER out of my site.
     
    what to do????
    • Silver
    Boy that is what you get for being nice to twits who don't deserve it!
    You know what though, you are very lucky you ran into the park owner BEFORE your ran into these idiots. I don't know what it is with some small dog owners-they think it is so cute when little FiFi is a nasty yappy thing but let a medium-to-large dog do a play bow and want some doggy fun and they act like their little frou-frou dog is about to get eaten.
    Next time don't bother apologizing. If she is so low-class that she uses the f-word in front of her own kids she is not worth your trouble. Ask her where the dog bit her and tell her you know a good trainer or obedience school where she can get her rats trained and watch the steam come out of her ears.
    Don't give in. In fact I would go back to the owner and calmly tell him that you are concerned about people bringing poorly behaved dogs (AND children) and what you should do about it.
    Good luck!
    • Gold Top Dog
    So, you had to prove that you had control of your dogs with a sit/stay demonstration.

     I would have been following the owner around insisting that others had to do the same.

    Man, I would stay as far from that park as possible.
    • Gold Top Dog
    What park was this? 
    • Gold Top Dog
    My last dog park experience involved a woman (I would like to use another noun) lecturing me to leash my dog or remove him from the park... because he snarled at several dogs who were jumping all over him. I was so upset about it I didn't even discuss it here, I was tried to put it out of my mind. My rather pessimistic view is that A holes will always cause, always win, dog park scuffles, and I just choose not to engage anymore... I don't want to put my dog or myself through it. I don't think I'll ever go to a dog park again. I personally do not believe there's any "answer" to this kind of problem... you can't reason with unreasonable people.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ooOOo that sucks... that really sucks...
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    I am so sorry you had to experience that. I hope that it all turns out alright.

    It's very hard for me to take my dog to the park because I have to muzzle her when she is around other dogs and suddenly when some people see a dog with a muzzle they automatically assume I have an aggressive dog. I can control my dog it's others that I worry about, I know my dog's limits but if anouther get too close to her then there will be trouble. It's more the people who let their dog off leash in the LEASH ONLY sections that I have problems with. There are rules there for a reason![:@] I don't take my dog into the off leash section because I know she is not the type that would do well in that area, the same should apply for the leash area, if a person thinks they should keep their dog off leash then they should not be in the leash area. That is just my rant about dog parks but it seem like so many people just are so dumb about dogs that it causes all sorts of problems.[8|] Gizzy's play bow has also been seen as an aggressive attack a few times and I just simply remove her from the situation because I know I can't change the other owners mind.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I agree with everyone's advice to the extent of at least avoiding this one person, or maybe this dog park, though I don't think you guys should have to miss out on the socialization. The other option would be to ask that woman to prove that your dog bit hers. Where's the broken skin or dried blood? And where's the forensic analysis to show a fang mark that matches your dog? Does she have any evidence at all or does she just hope that people will believe it because your dog is a pittie? Can she find anyone who can actually say they saw your dog bite hers? And what was the sequence of events? Ask them to describe in detail.
     
    You could also file a claim on the insurance of the dog park owner or sue them directly for failing to make sure that all dogs that come in are obedience trained and of suitable temperment to be in the park. If she has the "right" to question you if your dog is under control, she is also admitting liability and responsibility for the park. The offending woman would not have hesitated to sue the dog park owner if something had actually happened. Why should you have any less rights? You can use either avenue to display the best qualities of your dog. Avoidance of confrontation, just as your dog is peaceful. Or nail their hides to the wall and make them see that your dogs were the most obedient.
    • Gold Top Dog
    So you're saying this woman said the guy with the two female dogs was bit by your dog? The guy not the dog?  If that's the case, I would probably go back and talk to the guy.  You said you've seen him there on other occasions so maybe you can catch him there again.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I'd talk to the guy the next time you see him at the park, to get things straight. I wouldn't let this woman ruin your fun--I'd just keep an eye out for her when you're at the park, and leave if she comes when you're there.
     
    Some people have nothing better to do than to stir up trouble. [:@]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Saddened to hear that happened to you. Its such a shame that your efforts of good will were met with such hostility.

    My 2¢: I wouldn't give that woman any attention - just like ignoring a dog in order to curb its jumping up. I try to never offer energy to BS. If she brings it up again, I'd just smile stupidly at her, or maybe make some kind of Forrest Gump-ish comment about weather patterns, anything neutral that let's her hostility just fade away. Be non-reactive, you'll steal her thunder! If the park owner brings it up, I'd tell him that I'm quite willing to take responsibiity for my dog, so let's find this guy who was allegedly bit and attend to his needs personally (not relying on hearsay or BS)!

    I agree that a conversation with the park's owner, about park policy, is a good idea, in any case.

    My dog park has similar problems, from what others say, it sounds like many do. I want the socialization, too. But when there are such behavior risks, both human and canine, it's just a bad bet. I'm willing to drive farther away for a better experience.

    A lot of the people at my local dog park drop their new doggies at a local trainer's for 2-3 weeks, then have a well trained pooch delivered to them. They bring these dogs to the dog park and brag how great they are, while ignoring them and their deteriorating behavior. It is sad, and I don't want my dog socializing with that.

    • Gold Top Dog
    first off:  THANK YOU all who responded with support and advice-  my computer was down for a few days and i wasn't able to get back on line!
     
    it's a few days later and i've calmed down a little.  my husband and i have discussed it and decided not to go to that particular park anymore.  PWCA-  it's on swiss & oak and it's on land owned by the meadows foundation.  they are really nice people- maybe you know the area, everyone on their land is a non-profit and uses it for free.  ;part of my concern was the fact that it was "private" and therefore not held to the "use at your own risk" clause that's on the city park's website.  ron2-  your suggestions were very constructive and exactly the type of armor i was looking for.  thank you!
     
    as you may know, there had been a story about pits attacking a mother and child in the dallas area on the news the night before, and i truly feel this may have fueled this woman's behavior.
     
    i haven't heard another word about it, and to be truthful, i was really worried that animal control was going to show up at my door and try to take my dog[:o].  i guess that fear was irrational, but i couldn't help myself.  it was like the lady and the guy got together and tried to figure out a way to get my dogs out of the neighborhood and their behaviors were so crazy to begin with, who knows what else they might have been capable of???  if my dogs were another breed, i would've blown her off.  but because they're bullies, i felt i had to defend their integrity.  i was fighting a losing battle, and will be with these two, and it's not worth my sanity or the safety of my dogs just to try and change someone's mind.  also, what happens if it all blows up is that the close the park, you know?  the actions of a few crazy people are NOT worth the fun and excersise of an entire neighborhood's worth of dogs.  so, for the sake of the dogs, i'll avoid the park at all costs.  if it gets closed because of liability concerns, it sure as s**t won't be my fault!
     
    anyway, we're now committed to the other, better-but-further-away dog park owned by the city where i know the rules for sure and they have a doggie water fountain[:D]  thank you all again, really.  your responses have made my day!
    • Gold Top Dog
    And that is one of the biggest reason that I refuse to go to dog parks. If they were privately owned and the dogs/people had to pass some sort of test to get in, I'd be all for it. As it is, you couldn't pay me to take my dog to a dog park. [8|]
    • Puppy

    @badrap

    well, it only took the yuppies one week to run me out of "their dog park".... i was there later in the afternoon than usual because of some errands, and we were playing just find with everyone. this guy came (who was also there yesterday and his dog caused a fight) with 2 dogs (maybe herders- not sure). both females, one on a leash. he did the same thing yesterday: one *very* aggressive female on a choke lead, another slightly less free- no collars, no tags. at no time did he issue them any commands. rosie and tek went to investigate, and i called them back. they came. everything was fine, they were nowhere near this guy. then the owner of the park (it's privately funded) came along and asked if i had control. i was like, what??? i issued a sit, stay and held it for about 3 minutes (goood dogs) before releasing- the guy saw it and said, "bravo" that was great! about 2 minutes later this lady shows up with 4 dogs and two young children. 2 of the dogs were really poorly behaved poms, screeching and nipping everyone! she gave me an attitude about my dogs before she got in the door and then freaked out when tek was running with her intact male, saying, "he's attacking!!!'' tek was about 3 feet from this dog in a play bow when they weren't chasing around. so i offered to leave, and she (rudely) says, "please do".... at this point i lost my temper and told her that her dogs were about as poorly trained as i'd ever seen and lifting a yappy dog off the ground "out of harm's way" is hardly a training method. she told me to get f***ked and i told her the same and i left. dude with aggressive females was still there.

    well, i felt bad about griping in front of the kids, so i went back alone and apologized to her and her kids for making a scene, at which point she accused tek of biting the GUY!!!!

    guy never said anything to me, and i know it's not true. tek was NEVER out of my site.

    what to do????

    My heart goes out to you because I have first hand knowledge of the false accusation of dog bite.  

    It is a shame that because of nasty, lying  people you no longer feel comfortable about going to the dog park.   You say in a later post that Animal Control was not involved; most likely because these "people" knew they were liars and could not offer any proof of their allegation.  

    In my case, Animal Control was involved and the accuser had no proof whatsoever, nor did they ever interview the person or see the "dog bite."  I live in a small town, so perhaps the policy of Animal Control is lax and proof is not required.  However, I will be doing some investigating and my hope is that I can change this policy.

    All the very best to you.

    • Gold Top Dog

    This thread is 7 years old.  Seriously?