Husky or Shepherd: Which is best for me (New question...see last post)

    • Gold Top Dog
    whoa, i didn't realize you had never had a dog before. I don't really recommend either a husky or a GSD...especially not a pup. I also like the idea of a lab...a golden would be a great idea, too
    • Gold Top Dog
    How about going herehttp://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/dogbreeds/index.html and browse the breeds?

     
    Now that is an awesome link!  It gets straight to the point of what to expect in each breed and the informations is great!
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: PurdueRy

    Out of curiosity...I found this picture...does anyone know what type of dog it is if not a mix? Looks like a husky but a lil bigger maybe a malamute?
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    Looks like a malamute/gsd mix, or something similar.

    I like the way you are going about gathering information. I would not suggest either gsd or husky for you. What might work the very best is to get in contact with a rescue and start telling them what you are telling us, but without any breed interests, and see if they have a dog they know would work well for you. You might be surprised at the mix or breed you end up with, but you'd stand a better chance of being successful and happy, and so would the dog!

    Siberian huskies are among one of the highest of "I can't deal with this dog" dumpings. There are TONS of them in shelters. Alaskan huskies are just as wired, and really are working dogs, having very serious exercise needs. There are some who are not so wired, but I wouldn't count on it.

    My dog is half Siberian. She was Wild Thing until about four or five. She's five now. She can go from patient napping and waiting for me to full-on intense running in a FLASH. And I can never take her off the leash.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: jeano

    ORIGINAL: PurdueRy

    Out of curiosity...I found this picture...does anyone know what type of dog it is if not a mix? Looks like a husky but a lil bigger maybe a malamute?
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    Looks like a malamute/gsd mix, or something similar.

    I like the way you are going about gathering information. I would not suggest either gsd or husky for you. What might work the very best is to get in contact with a rescue and start telling them what you are telling us, but without any breed interests, and see if they have a dog they know would work well for you. You might be surprised at the mix or breed you end up with, but you'd stand a better chance of being successful and happy, and so would the dog!

    Siberian huskies are among one of the highest of "I can't deal with this dog" dumpings. There are TONS of them in shelters. Alaskan huskies are just as wired, and really are working dogs, having very serious exercise needs. There are some who are not so wired, but I wouldn't count on it.

    My dog is half Siberian. She was Wild Thing until about four or five. She's five now. She can go from patient napping and waiting for me to full-on intense running in a FLASH. And I can never take her off the leash.

     
    Well I must admit that its rather disheartening that a GSD or Husky is not the right dog for me. If anyone would like to throw out some other breeds to look into that would be great. Better to have learned this now than when it was too late. Good thing I research every big decision in my life before making it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Ry, maybe you could spend time at a local shelter and get some experience with a variety of dogs?

    This is what my husband and I are doing.  His family has only had mutt toys and a cocker, and I've never had a dog of my own (too small of house and yard) but the rest of my family on both sides all have many labs.  I've also done dog-sitting for labs.

    We're planning on getting a GSD, but we've been talking about this for years and are now starting to really do our research even though we can't get a puppy for probably another 1.5 years.  We're already committed to the dog as we would be a child.  We volunteer walking dogs at the local shelter a few times a week.  I spend as much time with the purebred GSDs as possible (there's always one or two of them on any given day).  They really do stand out from all the other breeds and it's an honor to work with them.  I enjoy getting experience through the shelter because there is always a vet and behaviorist on hand to help or answer questions about training (we are supposed to teach the dogs basic commands).
    • Gold Top Dog
    I had never had a dog before I got a husky. Now I have 3, and if I was able to, I'd like to have 6 or so! I'm in love!
    They are a difficult breed though. I don't know if they're harder than other types of dogs, because I've never had another type of dog. I understand how many are dumped by people who wanted them based on looks alone, or that had no idea what they were getting into. DH and I were fully prepared. We met a woman in our neighbourhood with a husky, a we learned a little bit about the breed from her and she referred us to her breeder. We drove out to the kennel to meet the breeder and all the dogs. We stayed for close to 3 hours while the breeder told us all about the breed, told us stories, recommended book to us, and all that sort of stuff. It was like an interview. She asked us all about ourselves, our lifestyle, and our daily routine. And at this point, we weren't even going on the waiting list!

    Our oldest dog was the WORST puppy. She made me cry a few times. I slept in my car a few times so I couldn't hear her screaming in her crate. I remember thinking she must be some sort of a husky/hellspawn mix or something. But, we loved her and we worked through it. It was a lot of hard work. About a year and a half of hard work! She's an amazing dog now. She's very calm and dignified. There is no trace of that hell puppy left. she grew to be so amazing, that we got 2 more. Actually, our last puppy (now 1 year old) was pretty rotten, but by this point, we knew that he was likely going to grow into a little gentleman (he did) so we were able to actually ENJOY his crazies.[:D] We didn't get more dogs for her, she was perfectly happy being the center of our universe... We got them for us.

    Our approach to raising them was to be prepared for anything and everything, and to never let our guard down. Ours aren't fence jumpers, but I'm sure that's because they've never been left out in the yard to discover they could jump the fence. They're rarely destructive, because they receive a lot of exercise, are crated when we aren't home, and watched closely when we are home. You MUST stay one step ahead of these guys!

    They are stubborn and strong willed, but if you can learn the way they think, you can get them to work. Don't let anyone tell you they can't be trained. (But, I don't believe the breed can be trusted off leash, no matter how much you train them.) Mine attend classes and do very well. Dealing with them can feel like a battle of wits, though. Currently my problem is with my 1 y/o, who thinks it's appropriate for him to sit one foot BEHIND me, instead of right beside me during heeling exercises. I'm trying to convince him that I'm right, and he thinks I'm crazy for not giving him a click when he sits. He will sometimes spazz out in protest. [&:] Oh yeah, that reminds me, they can also be very embarrassing in public!

    They are rowdy, dirty dogs. They have some innate attraction to mud. In the spring, my house gets so filthy I feel like I might as well set up my furniture in the yard. At least outside, the rain and wind might help with the hair and fur! When they blow their coats, they release an INSANE amount of hair. They try and sneak stuff in the house from outside--including opossums!

    You should also have a sense of humor if you intend to own one. One time I came home to find my puppy had escaped from his crate and tried to EAT his way through the door. I laughed (after I made sure he hadn't ingested any wood, of course!)... and then I reinforced his crate. They're bouncy, loud, kooky dogs. There's a certain joie de vivre about them. I second joining the Sibernet-L mailing list. It will give you everything from a feel for the every day comings and goings of the average Sibe owner, to what its like to live with several troubled rescues. It's a great list.

    I should note that every time I see a dog frolicikng off-leash, my heart aches. I will never have that with my dogs. Never ever... And that's the only thing I don't like about the breed.

    I'm not trying to 'sell' Huskies, I'm just saying that if they're prepared, I think a dedicated novice can do it. Three years ago, I didn't even have a dog. I knew nothing of dogs, never even had one growing up! Now I have three, I formulate their raw diet myself, I attend classes 2 nights a week, and I spend my weekends sled training! I'm hooked! It was a bumpy ride at the start, but I did it.[:D] Everyday is still work, though. I'm just used to it now.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Oh, and I can't really see a Sibe being a good frisbee dog. One of mine will chase and retrieve a tennis ball. He will even put it right back in my hand and sit for me to throw it again. But, he will only do this 6-7 times before losing interest. He'll drop the ball and run right past me! On to something else, I guess! Humans like boring games!
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Ihearthuskybutts

    Oh, and I can't really see a Sibe being a good frisbee dog. One of mine will chase and retrieve a tennis ball. He will even put it right back in my hand and sit for me to throw it again. But, he will only do this 6-7 times before losing interest. He'll drop the ball and run right past me! On to something else, I guess! Humans like boring games!

     
     
    hehe I would be crushed if my dog didn't like to do that...just one of those things that I thought would be fun. This forum is crazy, I could write a book with the responses I have gotten. Thank you all. I don't think a sibe is right for me at this point in my life. I don't want to have to constantly have my dog on leash or fear him running off to who knows where. I won't say I have ruled out an older GSD but I would probably be more apt to look into a mix who may be easier to deal with.
    • Gold Top Dog
     Are border collies similar in difficulty to GSDs?
    • Gold Top Dog
    One thing to seriously keep in mind about GSDs is that it can be VERY tough to find rental housing with one.

    From what you *haven't* said, I suspect that part of the appeal of these breeds is the 'wild' appearance? Pointy ears, brush tail, wolfy looking?

    Some other breeds to explore:


    Keeshond (more coat maintanance, less exercise, good size for apartment/rental housing, trainable, and a good 'first dog' personality)
    Norweigian Elkhound (not as low key as Keesies, fairly high energy but not as guardy as a GSD or or QUITE as independent as a husky, and much less likely to be banned.
    American Eskimo (more coat maintanance, lots available in rescue, variety of sizes, can be barky, but cute, spitz-y looking, and can be a really nice pet.)
    A chow MIX- I wouldn't recommend a purebred chow to a novice dog owner, but some of the chow mixes aer fantastic.

    One common thread in these breeds though, is that while spitz-type breeds CAN be pretty prey-driven, most won't be great frisbee dogs- retrieving gets boring pretty fast for them. All of them are moderate energy- they'll be perfectly able to keep up with you on hikes or outdoor activities (except for perhaps the smallest variety of Eskies), but will also be able to adapt to life DURING the work week when you don't have 3-4 hours to go and hike with them each evening. Unless you're a seriously extreme athelete running marathons or hiking very long distances, most dogs larger than the toys will keep up just fine. Indy (who is a corgi) keeps up fine with the horses on trail rides up to 15 miles or so, although he definately sleeps well the next day. He's done longer rides once in a whiel but those are usually with him getting carried part of the way or on rides where we take long breaks.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Pwca

    One thing to seriously keep in mind about GSDs is that it can be VERY tough to find rental housing with one.

    From what you *haven't* said, I suspect that part of the appeal of these breeds is the 'wild' appearance? Pointy ears, brush tail, wolfy looking?

    Some other breeds to explore:


    Keeshond (more coat maintanance, less exercise, good size for apartment/rental housing, trainable, and a good 'first dog' personality)
    Norweigian Elkhound (not as low key as Keesies, fairly high energy but not as guardy as a GSD or or QUITE as independent as a husky, and much less likely to be banned.
    American Eskimo (more coat maintanance, lots available in rescue, variety of sizes, can be barky, but cute, spitz-y looking, and can be a really nice pet.)
    A chow MIX- I wouldn't recommend a purebred chow to a novice dog owner, but some of the chow mixes aer fantastic.

    One common thread in these breeds though, is that while spitz-type breeds CAN be pretty prey-driven, most won't be great frisbee dogs- retrieving gets boring pretty fast for them. All of them are moderate energy- they'll be perfectly able to keep up with you on hikes or outdoor activities (except for perhaps the smallest variety of Eskies), but will also be able to adapt to life DURING the work week when you don't have 3-4 hours to go and hike with them each evening. Unless you're a seriously extreme athelete running marathons or hiking very long distances, most dogs larger than the toys will keep up just fine. Indy (who is a corgi) keeps up fine with the horses on trail rides up to 15 miles or so, although he definately sleeps well the next day. He's done longer rides once in a whiel but those are usually with him getting carried part of the way or on rides where we take long breaks.


     
    The reason I like the husky is for their wolf life appearance yes and their friendliness to strangers. I like the GSD for its coloring and its protectiveness/loyalty.
     
    I will look up those dogs. I believe I had the norwegian elkhound on my list of dogs to look into anyway :)
     
    In the meantime, anybody got any input on the aforementioned Australian border collie?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hey, if you want a frisbee dog, a retriever dog and a good dog for a first time dog, a lab or lab mix is really a good bet! I think a golden retriever or golden mix is also a great bet. Another good mix would be a boxer mix, of which there are plenty out there as well.

    Border collies have insane amounts of energy and are the kind of dog you have to spend a lot of time training. They, and lots of other herding dogs (German shepherds are herding dogs, too) HAVE to have a job. Australian shepherds and blue heelers (aka cattle dogs) will also nip folks on the heel without training, because that's how they handle the cattle they've been bred to herd.

    I'm sure you'll find a great dog if you keep up the good work. [:D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: jeano

    Hey, if you want a frisbee dog, a retriever dog and a good dog for a first time dog, a lab or lab mix is really a good bet! I think a golden retriever or golden mix is also a great bet. Another good mix would be a boxer mix, of which there are plenty out there as well.

    Border collies have insane amounts of energy and are the kind of dog you have to spend a lot of time training. They, and lots of other herding dogs (German shepherds are herding dogs, too) HAVE to have a job. Australian shepherds and blue heelers (aka cattle dogs) will also nip folks on the heel without training, because that's how they handle the cattle they've been bred to herd.

    I'm sure you'll find a great dog if you keep up the good work. [:D]

     
    I guess I have to admit that the other guy hit it on the nose when he said that I like the "wild, wolf-life" appearance of some dogs. Which is I guess why labs and retrievers don't appeal to me very much(looks wise only). I like a lot of dog's personality. Is it bad that I care so much about the look of my dog?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Also I would like to add, sorry if I seem stubborn. I promise I am taking all your comments into consideration. I think we're getting to a point where you guys are understanding what I am looking for in a dog and this thread has been full of helpful advice. So please don't think I am ignoring it :)
     
    Thanks again for your continued support.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: PurdueRy

    Are border collies similar in difficulty to GSDs?


    A BC is a very high strung dog that will make you tiered before it gets tiered.  Any herding dog will be very high energy but a BC wins them all when it comes to non-stop action.  They need constant attention and if not given a job to do they will find one on their own and often it's not what you want.  The key to owning one is to never let a BC become bord.  If your looking for a freesbie, ball feching, loves to run with you kind of dog then they are wonderful for that as well as a whole world of endless play.  BCs will never get old, they think they can play like a puppy untill they are 15+, this can be a downfall because they are prone the joint problems and too much play can be bad for them.  Some can be very velco but some are not velcro at all, it really is so differnt from one to the next, it's hard to say if it's safe or not to leave one off lead untill you meet the individule BC.  I've been told that with most herders the males are more velco then females.

    My Gizmo is very much BC and she is the most difficult dog to handel yet the most rewarding dog I have ever owned.  I have to keep a constant eye on her and hope she will stay out of trouble.  If I allowed her to stay outside all day she would not stop running and playing and trying to herd everything she sees.  Obedience training was a must with her and I'm so glad I did some pritave lessions with a trainer and a class otherwise she would be too crazy for me to handel.  She does well inside the house and is not a chewer or distroyer and enjoys being close and likes to cuddle but has her limits and will let me know.