Just adopted a dog.... is she vulnerable to coyote attacks???????

I guess i'm wondering why even ask the question, when the answer is obvious.  If they have taken one dog from you, what's to stop them from taking another?  I'm sorry, but this really upsets me.

Also, and I give this only as a public service announcement because I've met a number of city slickers and suburbanites for whom this is bignews:

Folks, coyotes are everywhere. There's been a scientific study done of coyotes who live in downtown Chicago. Just because you can't see them or have never heard of a neighbor's dog getting attacked by one does not mean they are not there. The population may be smaller than say, the high desert of New Mexico, but if you live in North America, there are some around near you and they're keeping an eye out for easy meals. They are probably the most successful large predator on the continent. They are so successful because they are scary smart and scrappy and adapt rapidly to new situations. As canids they are opportunistic scavengers, they key word being opportunistic.

My large dogs would be easy pickings for a good sized band of coyotes who were using their noodles. Good thing they both live in the house with me where they are safe and warm and happy.

Brookcove, I have heard owning a jack and jenny burro are great protectors of flocks.  The jenny stays with the herd and the jack goes after the threat.

I live in built-up suburb and we have coyotes. Huge things, not the skinny little kind they have out west. It's not safe to even leave an animal outside overnight in a chain-link covered kennel- the coyotes have been know to lure the dog over to the fence and then bite pieces off the dog through the holes.

ORIGINAL: houndlove
Folks, coyotes are everywhere. There's been a scientific study done of coyotes who live in downtown Chicago. Just because you can't see them or have never heard of a neighbor's dog getting attacked by one does not mean they are not there. The population may be smaller than say, the high desert of New Mexico, but if you live in North America, there are some around near you and they're keeping an eye out for easy meals. They are probably the most successful large predator on the continent. They are so successful because they are scary smart and scrappy and adapt rapidly to new situations. As canids they are opportunistic scavengers, they key word being opportunistic.

 
Case in point: Wily Coyote Caught in New York City After 2-Day Chase

While I'm not one of those "it's inhumane for dogs to see the light of day off a leash" people, I have to agree with what everyone else has said. Coyotes are pretty tough critters & a 20lb dog (even your 50lbs Aussie) is definately no match for even 1 or 2 coyotes. If they're a problem where you live & you actually want to keep your dogs alive, it would be a good idea to at least keep them indoors at night.

While I agree that the dogs shouldn't be out there to fight with coyotes, I don't think we should be so harsh.  There are better ways to help people.  It's no wonder newbies join, ask a question, and then disappear.  

We should understand a person's circumstances before jumping down their throats, even if we disagree.  When I have a question, whether it be about a dog, cat, or the moon, I don't want someone to yell at me.  If they do, I won't listen and I'll go elsewhere. 

ORIGINAL: Roxie865

While I agree that the dogs shouldn't be out there to fight with coyotes, I don't think we should be so harsh. There are better ways to help people. It's no wonder newbies join, ask a question, and then disappear.

We should understand a person's circumstances before jumping down their throats, even if we disagree. When I have a question, whether it be about a dog, cat, or the moon, I don't want someone to yell at me. If they do, I won't listen and I'll go elsewhere.

Yeah, people come here and ask a question because they DO NOT KNOW. Nothing, and I mean just about NOTHING, feels worse than someone making you feel like a low-life, IDIOT when asking a question.

And I had NO idea that coyotes "lure" dogs. I'm going to assume that the way this is done would be one coyote barks, howls, or makes SOME kind of noise to alert a dog? The dog goes to check out the situation and is attacked my an entire pack of coyotes?

I guess my problem with this is that a 4 month old pup already died because of a coyote, so now the question is will another small dog also die for the same reason.  I think the answer is pretty obvious.  Maybe I'm being harsh, but i just don't understand the reasoning of putting another animal into a dangerous situation.

I have a friend who has a large chow mix. This dog prefers to be outside at night even in colder weather. He's on a run, has a doghouse and is miserible inside. His owner does make him come in during subfreezing weather but the dog pants/paces all night long.
One evening this person was woken by a racket outside - howling, whining, etc.
He ran outside to see his large dog surrounded by about 6-8 coyotes. His dog was running back/forth trying to find a way out of the danger. Luckily there was enough noise being made to alert this person and he ran outside. The dog had been bitten a couple of times where the coyotes had charged.
Not something I would want to subject my pet to

My last puppy got run over by a truck. Do you think it's safe to keep my new one in a bigger stronger kennel in the middle of the road?

ORIGINAL: marynh

I have a friend who has a large chow mix. This dog prefers to be outside at night even in colder weather. He's on a run, has a doghouse and is miserible inside. His owner does make him come in during subfreezing weather but the dog pants/paces all night long.
One evening this person was woken by a racket outside - howling, whining, etc.
He ran outside to see his large dog surrounded by about 6-8 coyotes. His dog was running back/forth trying to find a way out of the danger. Luckily there was enough noise being made to alert this person and he ran outside. The dog had been bitten a couple of times where the coyotes had charged.
Not something I would want to subject my pet to

There you go again.  How nice.  In the indoor-outdoor cat thread, you used scare tactics, too.  You mentioned fishers and how death by one must be horrible.

The OP has probably run to the hills, or to another forum where the members are actually friendly enough to help him or her.

There you go again. How nice. In the indoor-outdoor cat thread, you used scare tactics, too. You mentioned fishers and how death by one must be horrible.

The OP has probably run to the hills, or to another forum where the members are actually friendly enough to help him or her.

 
I haven't been back long so maybe I should shut up but I don't get this. Death by predator is horrible (or is there some question about that?) and anyone who thinks of it should be scared. I'm not sure I'd call it a tactic. You can use "scare tactics" on me anytime I'm doing something that could harm my dogs if I need to be scared into doing something better.
 
As forums go I've always thought this one was pretty tame and the post marynh was pretty mild in my opinion. I actually wondered if the original post were a hoax since it's hard to imagine that anyone could be so logic-challenged (to put it nicely).
 
As far as I'm concerned putting a dog in a situation where a dog has already been killed qualifies for neglect and abuse and if the person who did it can't handle that they are probably better off in the hills.

There you go again.  How nice.  In the indoor-outdoor cat thread, you used scare tactics, too.  You mentioned fishers and how death by one must be horrible.

 
not scare tactics at all...simply logic and real life incidences.
I have a cousin who was badly burned playing with matches as a child....was her going around to schools sharing her story with other children simply a scare tactic? Or a way to get the message across and hopefully save a child from going through the horrors she did a scare tactic?
Sharing, learning from other people's experiences isn't a scare tactic...None of my posts have been cruel, name calling or rude - but I'd like to see the OP learn something by everything anyone here has posted - especially if it would save another pup from a horrible death.

The OP has probably run to the hills, or to another forum where the members are actually friendly enough to help him or her.

I totally agree with you Roxie, If you all really care about this dog being safe, don't you think the OP would be more likely to follow your advice if they were treated with respect and kindness. We do not know the circumstances of the prior puppies attack by coyotes, it's unfair to make assumptions, next time maybe ask questions to clarify. If there is something to comment on then well go ahead.