What is next for designer breeds?

Sorry and thanks for the correction.  I did mean puppymills. 
I got Harley from a reputable breeder who received him back from a client who had MS and could no longer care for him any longer.  She knew I was looking for a dog and decided to just give him to me.  I would have paid for him but she refused to take money on him.

Faramir said:
i meet so many people at the parks who are thrilled with their goldendoodle, labradoodle, cockapoo...why should they feel like sheep?  when i talk to them, it seems like they did research...it looked like a good idea to them...and they're happy

perhaps there are reasons not to get one...but many of the reasons i read here would not resonate with them..and some not with me either....there are so many issues involved...it's so hard to have a conversation on this subject, without 20 issues coming up...

so sticking to one issue...why should the happy "designer" dog owners feel that they were following the crowd, not doing the peoper research, etc...if they got what they wanted?

 
Oh my goodness...  Joel?  is that you?? 

I am not surprised.  That is the fad right now (so called designer dogs).  No matter how you look at they are MUTTS.  You can go to [linkhttp://www.dogbreedinfo.com]www.dogbreedinfo.com[/link] and click on Hybrid dog info.  There they have lots of mix breeds listed (under designer dogs).  Some of the mixes have pictures of what the offspring look like.  I don't agree with intentionally breeding two different breeds.  There are far to many mutts sitting in shelters and rescue groups who need homes.  There is also well over 170 different breeds out there.  And not to mention the countless dog clubs and organizations out there.  Why can't people just be happy with what is out there, why do we need more dogs??

But there are alot of people who feel the need to have the trediest things or animals.  True there are so many animals in shelters now facing death row.  I have seen many designer dogs listed in the local shelters on their last chance...too many are doomed as it is.
 

well, so much for sticking to one point at a time....i'll stick to the other threads.

ORIGINAL: faramir

well, so much for sticking to one point at a time....i'll stick to the other threads.

 
well, that is an easy way to get out of  questions you do not want to answer.  this is sticking to one topic...designer breeds.  so what do you want discussed?  yes, i presume the owners of the mixed breed are happy with their dogs.  i think most of us are happy with our dogs as we have raised them to fit within our families and our lifestyles, whether or not they are purebreds or mixed breeds.   
 
the thread started by me was questioning why anyone would sell a litter of mutts for $200.  i only paid $150 for my purebred, registered shih tzu who was needing to be re-homed.  the point was brought up by you as the shih tzu poodle cross and how smart it was.  i love my purebred shih tzu who is very smart and well socialized.  much more so than my sister's improperly socialized toy poodle.  it is all in the training and socialization that makes a good dog.  within the registered breeds already in place everyone should be able to find the dog that fulfills their needs without the breeding of mutts.

Faramir we would like to hear what you have to say and what your take on this subject is.  This forum is for discussions and comparisions etc.  We aren't hear to attack you just wondering what is on your mind.

ok so i called the ad and it was an accidental breeding and they were not sure who bred the pit at first if it was the shih tzu or a doxie.  i asked why in our local classifieds said she talked to someone from here who told her to run it here as she thought it was a cute ad ... geesh.  she did say she had to pull it out of their local paper after three weeks because the paper was getting calls that people felt the ad was offensive.

well, that is an easy way to get out of questions you do not want to answer

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heidi...it is not possible to have this discussion with so many people.
 
one person will say that if you want a mutt, go save a mutt at the pound...well, there is a long discussion concerning the problems with adopting a good dog from the pound...not always so simple....besides the long discussion of whether these crossbreeds have more predictable traits than a regular mutt.
 
another will say that it is not right to breed these dogs while dogs are dying in the shelter...well, there is a long discussion as to why it is ok then for people who want purebreeds to not go to the shelter, if they don't need them for a job. 
 
another will say that ALL these breeders are irresponsible...these designer dogs are now crowding the shelters...there are more genetic health risks by mixing...all points which are not backed up by hard evidence.
 
all i am saying is that i meet plenty of marvelous doodles at the parks, with their happy owners...they're happy with their purchase...so whatever argument you make, it has to be addressed to these happy owners as well....but again, this subject is too divisive and complicated for me to bother with...if one issue can't be discussed at a time, i'd rather just stick to the other threads...

ORIGINAL: faramir

well, that is an easy way to get out of questions you do not want to answer

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heidi...it is not possible to have this discussion with so many people.

 
thank you
i have to agree that many of the dogs in the shelter will not make everyone a nice pet and some are there for reasons that will not let them fit well into another home. 
my kill shelter for one will not adopt a chihuahua to a family with little children.  why is that?  can we not teach our children to be nice to little dogs.  i purchased my chi from a breeder instead of doing a rescue for that very reason.  zoey is very well socialized, loves children (i do daycare) and charms everyone who comes in contact with her.
 
i am not surprised that people love their doodles... the poodle has an awesome personality and they are very intelligent.  it just saddens me that so many end up at shelters.  it seems here there were over bred and not enough homes....
 
i think that the genetic health risks are no less than those who are breeding purebreds.  the proper testing should be done before breeding any dog and i know a lot of purebred breeders are not testing either. 
 
thanks for responding...

...found this on the web.  [][][]

http://www.satgraphics.com/images/large/LgWildLifePets/Dogs/BullShihtzu.html

ORIGINAL: heidandseek

let me step in here?  tell me why did they choose the breed?  if a person is buying from a reputable breeder the breeder has health guarantees, the pups will have been breed for health, looks and temperaments.  they will know what to expect which will never happen with a mixed breed. 

a lot of people are happy with mixed breed dogs but that doesn't mean that a mutt should be bred.  i am a firm believer if you are not breeding for the betterment of the breed you should have your dog spayed or neutered.  there are plenty of dogs in this world needing homes without intentionally breeding new mutts.

so the dog park folk?  they wanted what? a dog that wouldn't shed?  poodles don't.  like to hunt?  every poodle i have ever met would make a great hunting dog with the proper training.  so why did they purhcase their dog?  it is a fad and hopefully one that will die off soon.  here you can hardly give a labradoodle away anymore at any given time will find one at our local kill shelter.

Not to mention, Labradoodles don't always turn out to have shedless poodle coats.  You mix a lab with a poodle you are 50% likely to come out with a lab coat.  And research would have told you that.[>:]

In the end as long as the dog owner loves the dog they picked out...(researched and etc) that is all that should matter.  Mutt, crossbreed, or designer...as long as you are happy with your dog GREAT! 

In the end as long as the dog owner loves the dog they picked out...(researched and etc) that is all that should matter. Mutt, crossbreed, or designer...as long as you are happy with your dog GREAT!

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i'm glad we agree, Firestorm

ORIGINAL: Firestorm

In the end as long as the dog owner loves the dog they picked out...(researched and etc) that is all that should matter.  Mutt, crossbreed, or designer...as long as you are happy with your dog GREAT! 

Yes but I bet that most of the people who choose designer breeds are also the type that are "happy" with the dog as long as it's "trendy."  Or at least 50% of those people. 
That's what I hate about designer dogs.  They target people who are into trends, just for the money.  Dogs are not fashions or trends, they are for life.