Tuna mercury

    • Gold Top Dog
    wait. You're saying that the autism/mercury link is weak? Did I read that right?
    I'm not saying that my son has autism due to vaccinations, unfortunately, I'll never know. But neither does anyone else.
    And chances are, the mercury/autism link isn't going to be tossed out as a possibility any time soon.

    Here's an article I got from Autism link:

    Rob Zaleski: Chemist says mercury linked to autism spike

    By Rob Zaleski
    December 16, 2005
    http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/index.php?ntid=65414&ntpid=2
    His detractors call him an alarmist.
    "They hate me," Mike Wagnitz acknowledged in an interview this week.
    But if that's what it takes to get people's attention, hey, call him an alarmist or anything else you want, Wagnitz said with a laugh.
    A senior state chemist, Wagnitz is making health experts uneasy because of his public statements urging people to think twice before getting a flu shot this season. He thinks the shots are especially risky for pregnant women and young kids.
    Why? Because about 95 percent of the doses being distributed this winter contain thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative that Wagnitz and others believe is responsible for the startling increase in autism cases in the United States since the early 1990s.
    The federal government says that's hokum, noting that despite years of study there's no scientific evidence that mercury in vaccines causes autism. However, as a precaution, the U.S. Public Health Service in the late 1990s asked manufacturers to start phasing thimerosal out of childhood vaccines.
    In fact, both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say flu shots are absolutely essential for pregnant women and infants 6 to 23 months old. As for potential risks, they claim that the amount of thimerosal in a child's dose is so tiny it poses virtually no risk at all - a claim Wagnitz says is "pure propaganda."
    Still, health experts admit they have more questions than answers about autism. As the National Institute of Mental Health noted in its 2005 annual report on autism to Congress, "There are no effective means to prevent the disorder, no fully effective treatment and no cure."
    Wagnitz, 52, has been speaking out about the possible link between vaccines and autism for several years now, ever since his daughter Josie, now 8, was diagnosed with autism in 2001.
    To say he was shocked would be a colossal understatement, says Wagnitz, "because, frankly, I'd never even heard of autism before that. I was this trusting person who just did what the doctor told me to do."
    Then he began doing some research, and the deeper he dug, the more troubled he became. After doing "some simple fifth-grade math," Wagnitz says he figured out that the amount of mercury in flu shots - 50,000 micrograms per liter in the multi-dose vials - is 250 times the amount that's considered safe for liquid hazardous waste.
    That's when he got mad and began started asking some very pointed questions. So have a lot of other people - including Robert Kennedy Jr. who, like Wagnitz, believes that all vaccines should be thimerosal-free despite the higher costs involved.
    They want to know why, according to some scientists, the estimated number of cases of autism has increased a mind-boggling 1,500 percent since 1991, when the number of childhood vaccinations doubled.
    And they want to know why one in every 166 children has autism today compared to one in every 2,500 in 1991.
    "The government says they're just doing a better job of noticing it," says Wagnitz. But anyone who's been around autistic kids and knows how loud and disruptive they can be finds that extremely hard to believe, he says.
    "I mean, like Robert Kennedy Jr. said, 'Missing a kid with autism is like missing a train wreck.' So when they say they're doing a better job of finding them, I say, 'Then where are all the 30-year-olds and 40-year-olds with autism?'"
    Though he certainly doesn't relish the criticism, Wagnitz says his skin is "thicker than leather right now" and that he'll continue to speak out until all vaccines are thimerosal-free.
    "No one wants to talk about my message. All they want to do is destroy the messenger," he says. "I mean, liquid waste needs to go to a hazardous waste site if it contains more than 200 parts per billion of mercury. So anyone with common sense would say you don't want to be injecting people with 250 times more mercury than hazardous waste.
    "What more do you need to know?"



    That's just for flu vaccinations, too. And they've cut back on thimerosal in vaccinations because more people ARE aware of it's damaging effects.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I've read both sides of the arguement, and I have my opinion on it for right now. This one will probably continue to be debated until it can be attributed for certain to something. Since this isn't the place for the debate, and my sitting and arguing about it doesn't really help anyone, i'm choosing not to do it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    no, no, no. I totally respect that. I didn't mean to be confrontational. I wasn't sure if I had read your post correctly.
    I say the mercury is a HIGH possibility, but I'm not saying that it for sure causes Autism. We don't know what causes autism. I'll never know why my son has it. I try not to dwell on it too much because I love him for him. I don't want to "cure" my son. He has made me see things that NO ONE on earth can make me see. I wouldn't want him any other way. I think instead of focusing so much on a cure, that people should be more focused on accepting individuals with this disorder instead of trying to make them fit into what we are.
    There's more without this disorder than there is with it, with that said, I think those without autism (we being the majority) have more hearts and heads to love and understand these individuals with Autism, than the ones with Autism have the ability to understand us.
    • Gold Top Dog
    You're saying that the autism/mercury link is weak? Did I read that right?
    I'm not saying that my son has autism due to vaccinations, unfortunately, I'll never know. But neither does anyone else.

     
    the vaccination link has been soundly and very thoroughly disproven. The possible link to mercury is so weak it's not worth thinking about. The evidence to date suggests a very strong genetic cause of autism. Whatever causes it, it's happening before the kid is born. The symptoms show up later.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Look, whatever, adding mercury to vaccinations CANNOT be healthy. Whether it causes autism or not, whatever, but if there's a tiny chance that it either causes that or does damage in some other way to a child, why put it in a vaccination? I don't care how long it preserves the shelf life of a vaccination.

    • Puppy
    Time magazine had a very good article on this very subject earlier this year. I think the above article is a bit misleading in the way it talks about not being able to miss autism in a child. The fact is over the last 10yrs they have come to realize that it has so many levels of effect they have easily misdiagnosed it in the past.
     
    All that aside, that is not a bad article and I believe at the end of the day Mercury is Mercury, and it is not good for you.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Romal

    Time magazine had a very good article on this very subject earlier this year. I think the above article is a bit misleading in the way it talks about not being able to miss autism in a child. The fact is over the last 10yrs they have come to realize that it has so many levels of effect they have easily misdiagnosed it in the past.

    All that aside, that is not a bad article and I believe at the end of the day Mercury is Mercury, and it is not good for you.

     
    And I also agree that they have found out more about it and have misdiagnosed in the past.  And just to let anyone who cares know, I bolded the most important part of the article to me.  Mercury is bad whether it causes autism or not.
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    It really just depends on where the fish comes from on the amount of mercury that is in it.  I personaly like wild caught because the fish eat a more natural diet leading to a better tast where captive breed have a plain tase from the factory food they are feed.  However captive breed have less mercury (to the best of my knolage) than wild caught.  Also some of the methouds used to cach fish in the wild are not so ethitical, like chasing schools of dolphin to find the tuna and killing dophin in the traps designed for tuna.

    I didn't read the artical in Time but from what I've read and hear about Mercury, eating tuna once a week is to low of a dose to hurt a person.  Where if someone eats tuna more than once a week they will start to show signs of health related problems to the over consumption of mercury.

    Just wanted to add that althought it's safe to feed a dog tuna I find that salmon is a much more rich in nutrition than tuna.  If you want to feed fish to a dog then I would go with salmon which is safer overall than tuna.  It's a great sorce of fish oil and easer to feed then popping a captsul in the dogs mouth everyday.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I've always heard that heavy metals accumulate, that is why they are so dangerous. So yeah, the dose of mercury in one can of tuna a week by itself isn't high. But I have understood that it STAYS in your body, so that it adds up. That's why I think I won't eat any more. EVER. I probably have enough mercury in my system now. [:@]
    • Gold Top Dog
    The ocean is getting so polluted that it just makes me sick, that's why the mecury level has risen!!! who knows what mutations could be occuring as we speak due to the coastal farmers fertilizer run-off, oil from boats,ect.