What Would You Say About This to the Management?

ORIGINAL: ron2

Pit bulls are not dangerous. People are.

 
Ha ha, that reminds me of this ladies sig on a pit bul forum I frequent.......
"Yes my pit bull likes kids, me who dosnt"
Or
"no she dosnt bite but I do"

The highest number of bites are from Labs. Up there in the same are Siberian Huskies. My dog is a mix of both, more Husky than Lab. By the statistics, I'm more at risk than a pit owner. Pit bull bites are way down the list but they get all the press.
 
My I suggest a little more research...
 

Pit Bulls are dangerous weapons -- yes, I said weapons

 
You are wrong -- yes, I said wrong.
 

I'm starting to feel like the unofficial keeper of the line here......and I think we *might* be stepping over it.....

Anyone remember the story of the Pomeranian attacking a pit bull... NOT the other way around!
 
[linkhttp://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pitbull24.html]http://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pitbull24.html[/link]
 
 
For the record... I AM AGAINST PETS BEING SOLD IN STORES.  However, since I cannot stop it tomorrow, I think the least pet stores can do is put breed info on every cage so buyers know how big the dog will likely grow to, breed traits, etc. so they can make a somewhat informed impulse purchase.  I have heard of many stories of people buying an adorable mastiff pup but then not wanting it when they realized how big it got and they felt it was too big.  Poor dog is then given up and it could have been avoided from the start!

ORIGINAL: smilee1079

Anyone remember the story of the Pomeranian attacking a pit bull... NOT the other way around!

[linkhttp://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pitbull24.html]http://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pitbull24.html[/link]


For the record... I AM AGAINST PETS BEING SOLD IN STORES.  However, since I cannot stop it tomorrow, I think the least pet stores can do is put breed info on every cage so buyers know how big the dog will likely grow to, breed traits, etc. so they can make a somewhat informed impulse purchase.  I have heard of many stories of people buying an adorable mastiff pup but then not wanting it when they realized how big it got and they felt it was too big.  Poor dog is then given up and it could have been avoided from the start!

 
I sure do, I also remember when MY Rory had to get stitches from a mini poodle and when our neighbors Golden Retriever latched onto her lip and made her bleed. What did Rory do in defense you may ask, PETER? She let out a god awful cry and stuck her head between my knees, refusing to play with the golden. So THAT is why I say your opinions are rubbish, no flippin stranger can come on here and tell me soemthing about my dog that I dont know. No amount of your crappy opinions are going to change tha fact of what I witnessed that day iwth the golden retriever so take that to the bank!

HHMMMM? A lab attacks his families toddler? Oh my lets ban them all!
[linkhttp://www.journal-news.net/news/articles.asp?articleID=3104]http://www.journal-news.net/news/articles.asp?articleID=3104[/link]
 
By BETH HENRY / Journal Staff Writer



CHARLES TOWN — A pet dog bit a toddler in Jefferson County Monday morning, causing a head wound to the child that required treatment at a children#%92s hospital in Washington.

However, the investigating officer said paramedics on the scene didn#%92t think the little girl#%92s injury was life-threatening.

The girl, who will turn 2 years old on Friday, was at her home in the community of Silver Grove when her family#%92s black Labrador retriever bit her on the head, according to Jefferson County Sheriff#%92s Deputy G.W. Bradshaw, who is investigating the incident.

“It wasn#%92t a mauling or anything like that — (the dog) just snapped at her,” Bradshaw said in a phone interview Monday afternoon.

The dog was on the family#%92s porch, and when the girl went outside it bit her. It happened at about 10:45 a.m., and Bradshaw said no one knew why the dog snapped at her.

The little girl#%92s head wound was bleeding quite a bit, but Bradshaw said sometimes those types of injuries can look a lot worse than they actually are.

He also said the dog, which had been a family pet since it was a puppy, was friendly to other family members and everyone at the scene.

“They#%92ve never had any issues with the dog before,” he said, adding he felt bad about the whole situation. He said the dog will be quarantined for at least 10 days by animal control as a standard procedure to make sure it doesn#%92t have any diseases.

However, Bradshaw said the girl#%92s mother indicated that she doesn#%92t want to keep the dog anymore. If that#%92s the case, the dog#%92s ownership could be relinquished and it could be euthanized.

The girl was taken to a children#%92s hospital in Washington by a Maryland State Police helicopter, and her mother went with her. The names of the girl and her family were not available from police Monday.

Jefferson County Animal Control Supervisor Bill Polk said his office does keep records of dog bites, although the specific number of bites this year was not available from the office Monday.

Polk said a dog that bites someone once isn#%92t necessarily vicious, because things happen and dogs do occasionally nip and snap at people. He confirmed that quarantining a dog after it bites someone is a standard procedure, although pet owners sometimes can quarantine their pet at their own home. It is also usually up to the owners to decide whether the dog will be euthanized, and it is not always necessary in a one-time instance.

I would say that people like him are entitled to their opinions, but unfortunately, it is the opinions of people like Peter that end up becoming LAWS.

But honestly, he's come here to get us riled. What, did he think he'd come here and be anti-pitbull or pro-BSL on a dog message board and expect to get support?? ha! He knows better. Saying he would own a pitbull but then saying that he thinks that they should have to be muzzled in public and leans more towards THAT mindset. If he honestly would own a pitbull, there's no way that he would say it should be muzzled unless he already owned one that he KNEW was aggressive. He's a troll. At least with this issue he is.

ORIGINAL: peter_89
Ignoring everything regarding puppy farms, et cetera, for the sake of avoiding a flame war, isn't it simply insane to be selling these potentially extremely dangerous breeds to the typical novices walking through a modern pet store? It's feels as though they do not even care about the welfare of them and are simply selling them for money. I hate to think of what kind of unprepared homes these dogs are going into.

 
I read this part and I didnt have enough patience to read through all the pages so i'll come right out and say it: any dog has the potential to be dangerous. Cocker Spaniels, Poodles, Labs, Chihuahuas, GSDS, Mastiffs and Pits. Dont descriminate thebully breed because any dog in that pet shop can have the potential to be dangerous.
 
Pit Bulls are not time bombs.  Think of it this way: what makes a gun dangerous? Is a gun dangerous all by itself? No, a gun on the floor, on top of a bed is harmless. Now put it into a humans hand and you have a lethal weapon.

Its the same with dogs, the human race is pretty good at ruining cherished companions    

Extremely dangerous? Here is my vicious American Pit Bull Terrier. I AM one of those people who praise pit bulls to high heaven, I AM one of those people who have faith in a breed that humans have used and abused and genetically manipulated to their benefit. I AM one of those people who responsilby advocate the breed with a healthy idea of their capability and respect them all the more for it.

 
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Pit Bulls are not time bombs. Think of it this way: what makes a gun dangerous? Is a gun dangerous all by itself? No, a gun on the floor, on top of a bed is harmless. Now put it into a humans hand and you have a lethal weapon.

WELL SAID!!!

If we are saying that fighting dogs should be banned, then I guess there goes our JRT! I'll bet you didn't know that those dogs are fought just as much as pits. But we don't see people making a fuss about them being sold in pet stores!

Pits are like humans. Yes, we have serial killers. But that does not mean ALL people are bad. Yes, some pits are very aggressive, but that does NOT mean that ALL pits are.

ORIGINAL: amstaffy

isn't it simply insane to be selling these potentially extremely dangerous breeds to the typical novices walking through a modern pet store? It's feels as though they do not even care about the welfare of them and are simply selling them for money. I hate to think of what kind of unprepared homes these dogs are going into.

I totally AGREE, if in fact this is an APBT and not a Bull Terrier(which it might be considering the Westminster crazies) this breed of dog should be totally explained to the new owner who should be interviewed on the responsibility of owning this breed as well as the training that should also be implimented...not just sold in a pets store for the first person who comes along with the hand full of cash

Yep.  Not to mention that most of the people who buy from pet stores don't know much about dogs, otherwise they would know better than to buy from a pet store.  They are obviously the type of people who do no research because any little bit of "buying puppy" research on the internet would come up with something that says "don't buy from a pet store." 

With that in mind, these type of irresponsible people are not the type to train a dog or even worse, the type to train a dog to fight.  After all, they bought the dog as an impulse, because "it's a cool dog," or "it's cute and cudly."  They didn't spend the time to do any research, why would they spend the time and money to train.

Just a thought.

For the love of God I cant remember where it was that I saw a statistic of Dog bites, but I believe Shepherd Mixes were #1, Labs #3, some other breed #4, Dauschound (sp?) and Pitties tied at #5 or #6
 
The thing is that when a Lab attack actually makes the news its a very quiet hushed up thing. You usually read that the people affected say "It was scary, but we'll be alright" or "It could have been much worse" and thats the end of the subject.
 
Now let a Pit Bull attack someone and everyone is running around like crazy saying "PUT HIM HIM DOWN!!!" All Pit Bulls Are Agressive!! I thought we were going to get killed!!
 
Why didnt they say that about the Lab, Corgi, Poodle, Boxer that almost ripped their face off?
 
The thing is that the media makes Pit Bulls the bad guys, they exaggerate everything and usually only post bad Pit Bull news (never the therapy pit, the pit who saved a life etc) so to the uneducated eye a good pit bull is a rarity (and waiting to go vicious), while a mean Pit Bull is the norm, when we all know this is the other way around.
 
So i'll stop ranting now because the OP probably wont even be back []

Maybe Im just a freak?
 
I LIKE breeds with bad reps, I adore APBT's, Rotties, Dobies, etc.
 
I would love to own another pittie someday. While im at it i'd also like to own a Fila, a Neo, and a Cane Corso

I've had a lot of ideas while I was reading this thread... lets hope I remember all of them.

Id like to start by saying that not only do I not agree with selling puppies in stores at all, but it saddens me to know that a "pit bull" pup was being sold in a pet store.  I will defend to the end that American Pit Bull Terriers are wonderful dogs.  I own one, and will continue to own them for the rest of my life.  Owning a pit bull, does however, come with responsibility.  As a pibble owner, you are taking on the very big responsibility of advocating for your dog.  I don't believe that you can be a lazy dog owner if you own one of these dogs.  You need to educate, grow a thick skin, be prepared to defend, train train train to create an ambassador of the breed, exercise the dog til your arms and legs fall off, etc.  But, I couldn't be happier to take on these responsibilities!  I hope for this pup, and ALL breeds of pups to not fall into the right hands, as, yes, ANY DOG HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE DANGEROUS!

It is very true that proper breedings, adequate training, a lot of socialization and knowledge and education do encourage great temperamented dogs... this in addition to the fact that pits are, by breed standard, not human aggressive.  And yes, they have the potential to be dog aggressive (as does any dog), and the proper precautions need to be taken. 
Many responsible owners live successfully with DA pits... so, a responsible owner would be sure to keep that dog out of questionable circumstances.  Fenced yards, always on a lead, proper training so that the dog listens very well to you, avoiding dog parks, not getting a second dog, etc.  In addition to this, as sad as the reality is, if a responsible owner found themselves with a human aggressive pit, they would probably make the very hard, yet probably best, decision to have the dog humanely euthanized.  It is best for, say, a fear aggressive dog to be put down than to live their lives constantly in fear, and lashing out because of it.

Also,
comparing a fila brasilero to a pit is as ridiculous as comparing a pit to a chihuahua.  An APBT has been bred with completely different characteristics than a fila.  Their intended roles in society are different, their size is different, etc.  Same with a chihuahua.  Can all be dangerous, sure, as can a cocker, beagle, lab, golden, etc. etc.

The media screws everything up.  It is the most skewed, biased, brainwashing, misleading opinion you could probably ever encounter... and I don't say this just based on dogs.  Most things are misrepresented when it comes to the mainstream media.

I know you stated that you "know your 'american pit bull staffordshire terriers'" (or whatever that breed was) but take a look at this site...

[linkhttp://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html]http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html[/link]

Can you find the APBT?

Many dogs, and you said it yourself, are misidentified as the general term "pit bull." 

I think thats it, for now...