Dept of Motor Vehicles

 I don't know about anywhere else, but here the driving test is painfully simple. (going by what teens have described) A simple drive around a few blocks, plus a three point turn. I can't imagine any bad habits someone could accumulate that would cause them to fail.

 I do think it's odd that someone from the DMV went to someone's house. That certainly wouldn't happen here. However, if she's unable to pass a driving test, she probably shouldn't have a license.

I don't think bad drivers of ANY age should be driving. But I do also know that older drivers (and I in no way think 70 is ancient) sometimes ignore the signs that they should perhaps cease driving.  I know my grandfather, who had Alzheimers, drove for farrrr longer than he should have. They finally had to have his doctor sign a note to have the license taken away. 

I agree 10000%, that alcohol and cell phones alone, not even counting texting... is more dangerous. YES we hear that an older person did something stupid to cause an accident, but we also hear about other accidents and most of them were done by something stupid, we tend to discuss the seniors as a different catagory.  And whoever said above ( still hate this writing format on this forum that you can't go up and see who says what ) is soooo right, that their kids have a worse driving record then them. I bet a lot of us can say the same thing.    And yes............the drivers test is easy............but try it when you are "under the gun" and nervous about tests. I did not pass mine when I took it the first time over something painfully stupid.  Just being uptight and nervous knowing you HAVE to pass it.

 Okay now for the update.  YES my sister has his business card so no matter how strange it is.......it is!!!  I myself called the DVM and talked the the girl answering, she said she worked there for 24 years and never heard of such a thing...but guess what.... it happened..again my sister has his business card ( he is an investigator for them ) and her lawyer spoke with him.     Lawyer says" sorry. he came out to do more evaluation."  God knows what my sister did or said to get his sympathy!!!   Well she decided to not just sit and take it and called him, and he came back. Turns out he had a form for her to sign that he forgot about that day..so came back yesterday.  My sister decided to treat him like a " best friend" and hope that he has a change of heart...I guess.   He will go talk to her doctor and he wants a list of the medication she is taking.   He wanted to see her car which was in the garage..... and there is no dings or bumps or anything falling off of it for proof that she wasn't hiding any accidents.  So who knows what will become of this now...I guess he will do what ever he does next....don't know if anything she said could make a difference or not.

 BUT I am still floored that a neighbor can be mad at you...or not like the color of your hair and call and put you thru something like this...but it turns out they can.

It sounds like she's getting everything worked out!

Yes, it is scary that mean neighbors can do this. 

dyan

 BUT I am still floored that a neighbor can be mad at you...or not like the color of your hair and call and put you thru something like this...but it turns out they can.

The reality of most of life is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.  If someone has nothing better to do than to call the authorities about SOME thing -- and then call again and again and again -- eventually someone will do something just to shut them up.  And if they have six of their cronies who have nothing better to do than to sit and stare out their window at someone -people like that can get you in a LOT of trouble.

Years ago I came home one day to find half the city workers in my yard -- a 125 year old oak tree IN MY YARD ***NOT*** even on the easement **was in PIECES** on my lawn!!

I was HORRIFIED.  It had ALREADY been cut down.  I knew NOTHING about this.  It was a healthy tree and a MASSIVE tree home to owls and a bunch of other wildlife.

My yard was SWARMING with tree people and saws and workers -- I went to the "boss" and asked WHO told them to cut MY tree down and WHY wasn't I notified??

He looked at me like I was out of my mind.  "Lady you have been calling DAILY for WEEKS to the City demanding to get THIS tree felled as a danger!!  What do you MEAN you weren't notified -- you have DEMANDED this for months."

"No -- I have NOT.  I have **never** called -- are you telling me someone impersonated me and said they were ME??  What NAME did they give?"

 Apparently one of my neighbors had been calling saying she was ME.  I suspect I know who it was but I've no way of ever proving it.  It would have been pointless to sue because I couldn't prove a thing without a ton of expense. 

But even worse -- I found out the entire street was FURIOUS with me because it displaced the owls and wildlife. 

All because someone decided to call an authority and play games.  Yes -- they can make your life H-e-double-hockey sticks and leave you to pick up the pieces. 

"Complaining" is an art some people decide to take a lifetime to perfect. 

Wow Callie....what a story. And an awful story at that.

Somewhere I think everyone gets whats due to them.... eventually.  At least I hope so.

As far as my sister, I dont' feel that she has a chance at all of doing anything except taking that test..... but since he wants to go talk to her doctor..........maybe.  I guess we'll see.   Only thing I know is that she almost had her house sold last summers end...she screwed around getting things done that she had to do to buy a condo that she was looking at, the guy backed out and she has not had a bid since. In fact no one even looking at it in over a month. That condo would have been right up by her doctor, some shopping and a whole lot of people, in an association where it might have had some help for those that don't drive.  Now she is stuck if she has to take a test and not pass it.

 I would be SERIOUSLY suspect about this. Elderly, house for sale and someone showing up at the house with a business card taking her license? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!! This is how people take over identities and home titles.  It is a scam that is more common than you think these days. Anyone can make a business card. Anyone. This to me sounds like a 10 lb fish, hook, line and sinker. And now he has her medication information and more? I would be going to the DMV in person and demanding to speak to a manager in charge then following that to this "investigator".

 What state is this btw? Isn't it a red flag when a worker from the DMV says they have never heard of such a thing? big red flag. huge. waving in the air with bright lights flashing.

Jewlieee

I would be SERIOUSLY suspect about this. Elderly, house for sale and someone showing up at the house with a business card taking her license? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!! This is how people take over identities and home titles.  It is a scam that is more common than you think these days. Anyone can make a business card. Anyone. This to me sounds like a 10 lb fish, hook, line and sinker. And now he has her medication information and more? I would be going to the DMV in person and demanding to speak to a manager in charge then following that to this "investigator".

 What state is this btw? Isn't it a red flag when a worker from the DMV says they have never heard of such a thing? big red flag. huge. waving in the air with bright lights flashing.

But don't you think that her lawyer who talked to him would have caught it?

OH................in case I didn't say this...she did NOT give up her license....  He told her she would have to go take a test both written and driving.....unless she wants to relinquish it now. She said  " I sure am NOT going to give it to you!"

 This still sounds seriously suspicious (whoa alliteration!). They called the DMV, and the person there had never heard of this? I know she called that guy back, but what about calling the DMV, telling them "his name" showed up at the door claiming to work for them. Ask if he is actually employed there. I could make a business card on my printer, and I could steal the logo of any business and make up forms if I wanted to. I really would call and make absolutely certain this guy is actually employed by the DMV.

BTW, what state does she live in. I'm trying to look up some info now. I checked Ohio, but I see Ohio is a BMV, so I just want to be sure of the state.

However, this is what I found about Ohio, so a neighbor could do it if you live there

What is the procedure for reporting someone who should not drive because of age or because of a medical, physical or vision problem?

The Ohio Motor Vehicle laws allow the Registrar of Motor Vehicles to require an Ohio licensed driver to submit a medical statement and/or take a driver license examination upon receiving information giving "good cause to believe" that the driver is incompetent or otherwise incapable of safely operating a motor vehicle. The Ohio Administrative Code states that "good cause" is considered to be a request for recertification received from a law enforcement agency, court, physician, hospital, or rehabilitation facility. To take action on a request received from a law enforcement agency or court we require that the agency or court has had personal observation of the subject's driving or personal contact with the driver. We cannot take action on the recertification request if it is based solely on the person's age or hearsay.

The Bureau will also take action on a written and signed request submitted by a relative, friend, neighbor, etc. However, we are required to first conduct an investigation to determine if there is sufficient cause to require a medical statement and/or driver license examination. Again, age cannot be the only basis for the request. The letter writer must provide us with enough information so that we can locate record of a valid Ohio driver license or temporary permit issued to the person. If we cannot find record of an Ohio license or temporary permit, no action can be taken.

Legally, we must inform the driver who is the subject of our investigation or recertification procedures of our source of information. Therefore, before an investigation or any other action is taken on request received from a family member, neighbor, friend, nurse or social service agency, we must receive permission to use the letter writer's name as our source of information. Information received from a physician is considered confidential. There is currently no law that requires a medical professional to report to the Bureau a patient who should not drive, nor is there any liability protection for the person that chooses to make a report. Any changes in our policies and procedures for reporting and recertifying unsafe drivers would necessitate the enactment of new laws by the Ohio Legislature.

If someone would like to submit a written request to the Bureau to have a driver recertified for driving privileges, you may send or fax the letter to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, Attention: Driver License Special Case Section/Medical Unit. P.O. Box 16784, Columbus, Ohio 43216-6784, fax number (614) 752-7271, Attention Medical Unit. The letter should include a release allowing us to use the letter writer's name as our source of information. The Ohio laws that govern driver license re-examination and medical recertification of a driver do not involve vehicle registration privileges or license plates. Therefore, registration privileges will not be affected even if driving privileges are denied.

Ohio's motor vehicle laws currently do not provide for mandatory retesting of elderly drivers, as it is considered discriminatory. All drivers, regardless of age, are only required to pass a vision screening prior to being issued a renewal driver license.

griffinej5

BTW, what state does she live in. I'm trying to look up some info now. I checked Ohio, but I see Ohio is a BMV, so I just want to be sure of the state.

However, this is what I found about Ohio, so a neighbor could do it if you live there

Yes..we live in Ohio.

As fishy and unreal as it seems...I have to think that would be the first thing that her lawyer checked on and she called him immediately, and he was in his office that morning because she had already spoken to him earlier about making an appt. Therefore he was on it right away..except it took a day for the investigator to call him back.

Thanks for finding that...I copied it. I did spend a second or two trying to look up our laws but that is when I got the idea to call the office. It would seem that the girl answering should know that it could happen. When I think of it...they always tell the elderly and everyone else for that matter,  if unsure to call the office to find out.........................so it seems that the person answering the phone should know something as important as this.