Introducing Rueben.

 There was Sinder as well

To Kim, I do think it's unfortunate that you've removed your post. It's really a quite helpful forum and a great family, even if these particular words sting at the moment. 

Truley, you said it better than I could've, thank you.

ETA: Anybody else remember Jayde?

 Truley, you deserve a medal.

 Yes, thats why Zeeva surprised me. Also, the little JRT.

tiffy

Also, the little JRT.

You have no right to bring that up. 

Goodbye everyone. It was nice getting to know everyone but I see my presence here is not welcome anymore.

kle1986

tiffy

Also, the little JRT.

 

You have no right to bring that up. 

 I have every right to bring that up!

Kim, leaving is your choice. No one here is asking you or telling you to leave.

For myself, I think you should stay. Acquaintances and friends sometimes have to tell people the truth as they see it. You have to admit your track record right now is in shambles. You also have to remember that your on a dog forum. People here sometimes have more respect for animals than for their fellow man/woman, which btw, does bother me. The fact remains, we are all here because we love dogs and other animals, if anything, while maybe not real happy about it, or even agreeing with it, you should respect the fact that we do care. You have been known to complain about others and their treatment. Why should it be different for you? Why should we treat you any different?

If you disagree with what has been said, and want to prove us wrong, then you should stay and do just that. I won't say it will be easy, and it will not happen overnight. But I for one would like to see you try.

 I dont think Tiffy had any right to bring up Ginger. She was at the VET getting spayed. How the heck is any of that my fault?!!!!!

Kim, no one here thinks you are responsible for what happened to Ginger, Joker, or Lillie.  Please read Dawn's posts and take them to heart.  I know I for one agree 100% with her.  The truth is painful sometimes, but oftentimes it does help us to grow.  And to be better dog owners, which is what each of us here strives for. 

Also please think about the example you may be setting for Samantha with how many dogs have come and gone through your home.  Don't you want her to appreciate every pet that she has in her life as a companion to share her love and life with?  Do you want her to think that they should just be rehomed when something unforeseen comes up (as in the cases of Fynn, Zeeva, Keeper)?  I know you don't want that...you are a good mom, but your actions will stick with her for the rest of her life.

If you need to take a break, that is perfectly understandable, but please don't feel that any of us wants you to leave.  Like grab said, we are a family here.  Maybe that's why we do feel like we can be blunt with each other, for better or worse.

kle1986

 I dont think Tiffy had any right to bring up Ginger. She was at the VET getting spayed. How the heck is any of that my fault?!!!!!

I wasn't saying Ginger was your fault. Stuff happens. I just brought her up because she was another doggie you owned.

As someone who has lost three dogs to seperation (ex has them), rehomed one, and had one put to sleep in the past few years, I KNOW what it is like and how awkward it can seem. Being defensive is just not the way to handle it. It just reinforces the thought others have that you're viewing your pets as disposable. I don't know you personally so I can't say what the reasoning is. You don't owe it to anyone to defend your position, but everyone's just concerned because they CARE. I hope you stay.

Beejou

As someone who has lost three dogs to seperation (ex has them), rehomed one, and had one put to sleep in the past few years, I KNOW what it is like and how awkward it can seem. Being defensive is just not the way to handle it. It just reinforces the thought others have that you're viewing your pets as disposable. I don't know you personally so I can't say what the reasoning is. You don't owe it to anyone to defend your position, but everyone's just concerned because they CARE. I hope you stay.

Thank you Beejou, for posting this.

I'm so sorry that your so upset and for what you've gone through. I still get flustered and embarrassed when I think about the dogs I've owned and for one reason or another had to rehome. I took it very hard and I took the things people said to me here very hard. Rehoming those dogs took a toll on me  and I'm sure on the dogs and it definitely looked bad to those on the outside. I had to take a break from here in the end and really look into myself. I found out all this time I was trying to replace my Pomeranian Missi who was my heart and soul. I had to get over that pain and stop getting dogs to fill that void. I rehomed too many dogs in the last 3yrs. Yes, they all found amazing new homes, but it could have been avoided if I had just listened to my husband and people with similar advice. Heck, I even went on meds to clear my head. All Im saying is maybe you need to take some time, clear your head, think about what you want, why you want another dog. Everyone here is just trying to help. I didnt see it that way at the time either when I was under fire, but they really do mean well. Im sorry to see you leave for a while, but sometimes it does help. Take care of yourself :)

 Others have given their dogs away for some of the same reasons as I have but no one bashed them. I had to put my kid first before Zeeva AND find Zeeva a home that she would be more happy and comfortable in. I wish I had let Susan take her instead of getting talked into keeping her. I did find her a great home. I get undates on her.

And you guys act like I just got rid of the dogs to a pound or something. I didnt. They both went back to the breeders. I had a contract stating if for any reason I couldnt show Fynn he would be returned and placed in another show home. What was I supposed to do? Hide him when I decided I didnt like showing but didnt want to give him back because I was attached to him. Or keep showing him myself even though I hated handling myself? He would have picked up on that and not gave it his best. I couldnt mess up his show career.